CUV4X and new Celerons -- possible?

[ET]

Anyone knows if the CUV4X can support the latest Celerons? They seem like a good CPU upgrade.

 

[GregMal]

With the latest BIOS any Celeron upto 1.1 ghz............

 

[ET]

Including the 256K cache one?

 

[Wingznut]

No... the CUV4X will not run the .13um Celerons. You'll need a TUV4X or TUSL2 for that.

 

[ET]

Thanks.

Damn, I hate it that every CPU upgrade also means a new motherboard.

Is there a fundamental problem with using the new Celerons, or would a BIOS update (if ASUS chooses to release it) solve that problem?

 

[GregMal]

I believe it's a voltage issue and BIOS updates can't change the hardware
on the MB..........

 

[ET]

and

Yep, I know that BIOS updates can't change the hardware (although if the hardware was flexible enough in the first place, the BIOS may expose new abilities).

All I can do is repeat the sentiment that I hate replacing the motherboard every time I want to upgrade my CPU - even when it seems like it's the same family of CPUs.

 

[GregMal]

Well I've done many upgrades to my home machine and it appears that everytime I'm
ready to upgrade, it almost requires a MB/CPU/memory upgrade.
My last upgrade was Feb 2000 when I installed a ASUS P299 ZX MB with Celeron 466.
At the time Athlons didn't exist and P3 600 slot1s had just come out.
Now in Feb 2002 I'm looking at a SOYO TISU MB with Celeron 1.2 Tualatin......
It's just a neverending cycle...............
Greg

 

[techwanabe]

Powerleap makes an adapter which allows Tualatin CPUs to work on PIII cumine motherboards. But it may not make economical sense.

 

[GregMal]

Yeah....I believe the Powerleap adapter is $169 (plus shipping) w/celeron 1.2.
Right now I can get the SOYO TISU MB w/1.2 celeron for $197.50 (plus shipping).
But I'm also getting ATA 100, 133 bus speed, 2x/4x AGP...............
Greg

 

[AkumaX]

can SOYO TISU MB o/c?

 

[techwanabe]

<< Yeah....I believe the Powerleap adapter is $169 (plus shipping) w/celeron 1.2.
Right now I can get the SOYO TISU MB w/1.2 celeron for $197.50 (plus shipping).
But I'm also getting ATA 100, 133 bus speed, 2x/4x AGP...............
Greg >>


I'm not sure why there would be much of a market of something of that cost to upgrade when you can get a new mobo and CPU for a simlilar price. You can pick up an Athlon XP 1600+ and mobo for around $200. Of course the additional cost isn't just an extra $30 diff between the Powerleap and the Athlon mobo/CPU combo. Usually one needs new memory and case/PS too, if one goes that route. But there are upgrade routes which don't require new mem or PS too.

 

[GregMal]

The memory is already purchased (2 sticks Micron 256 at $25/stick, when prices were lower)
and the PS is an Antec 303x. Also I'm not interested in AMD at this time for my home machine.
BTW: I'd have to purchase a new PS and Memory (DDR) for the AMD setup not to mention a
reformat and clean install.............Greg

 

[novice]

FWIW, I just picked up a new retail boxed Celeron 900 for $45 +$6.95 shipping from newegg. It is running nicely at 1.08 gig on my MSI-6309 motherboard which has the same chipset (Via Apollo Pro 133a) as the CUV4X. The old BIOS on my board thinks the processor is a PIII 850 but Sisoft Sandra shows it as a celeron 1.08 gig. So I am sure it is possible. The default core voltage is 1.75 and my board goes down to 1.7 and as high as 1.9. I am running 1.80 for good stability with the 120 front side bus.
Chuck