CUSL2-C may have the i815E ?

[John]

According to Asus.com

<< *Both 815E/815EP chipsets support the features specified for the CUSL2-C motherboard. ASUS reserves the option to provide either chipset for the CUSL2-C. >>



I haven't yanked the heatsink off my chipset yet, but SANDRA reports an i815EM chipset. How odd?

 

[LXi]

Well there is no on board video for CUSL2-C, I dont see why they should waste their money for a i815E and put it on the CUSL2-C which is suppose to be sold for cheaper.

 

[joeryu]

i read about this on the HardOCP forums, one user had found a 815E chipset when taking off the HS on the cusl2-c, and was quite pissed, pissed enough to sell it off for like ~$60. Dunno if it makes much a difference, i personally wouldnt mind.

 

[LXi]

There isnt a difference, even the memory limitations are the same.

 

[bizkit]

check my board it is a i815E not the EP I got mine early....
there is no diffrence from what I read ....
I'm not pissed like that one dude even though
I understand he wants &quot;the latest 815EP chipset...&quot;
as it says on the Box.....oh well!

 

[AndyHui]

Supposedly there is a minor difference. On the i815E, the i752 is multiplexed to the external AGP slot. This would not be the case on the i815EP, where the i752 is virtually gone.

Whether or not this would make a real difference is questionable. On an i815E, you wouldn't bother connecting the traces to the disabled i752 if you were going to sell it as an i815EP, right?

The i815EP does not really have &quot;no onboard video&quot;. Intel took the CuMine P3/Celeron path where if the i815E i752 testing fails, they simply disable the video part and sell it as an i815EP.

 

[Smbu]

I think they have something about this in the review of the CUSL2-C at Firing Squad. They said Asus didn't want to wait for their shipment of the 815EP chips to come in, so on the early versions of the board they put the 815E chips on instead.

 

[AndyHui]

I don't see what the problem is. Essentially, ASUS ate the cost of putting in a more expensive chipset to give us a cheaper motherboard.

 

[Sunny129]

well thats exactly why i question whether the i815EP is just an i815E. whether ASUS sells the 815EP as an 815E w/ permanently disabled VGA or not, the customer is still getting what he or she wants, and that is a chipset &quot;without&quot; onboard VGA. is reserving the right to put either the 815E or 815EP on the CUSL2-C ASUS's way of saying that they use the 815E with a permanently disabled onboard VGA without coming out and saying it in plain english? you would think they would produce another chipset identical to the 815E in every way except the onboard VGA, accomplishing this by simply leaving out the i752 component. it makes sense to me that ASUS would be losing money by using the same 815E chipset that was on the CUSL2, but putting limitations on it. but i guess its up to Intel whether the 815EP is truely its own chipset or just another altered 815E.

 

[Regalk]

ANother useless thread about a meaningless chipset - time for breakfast...yawn

 

[oldfart]

Actually a good thread about a great chipset with one useless thread crapper post. Maybe have that first cup of coffee before you post?

 

[AndyHui]

No, the i815EP is NOT truly its own chipset....it's an altered i815E, as I said above with the comparison to the current P3/Celeron situation. A P3 with half the cache disabled becomes the Celeron; same way that the i752 is disabled on the i815E to become an i815EP.

 

[John]

LMAO @ oldfart

I own a CUSL2-C, and since it works perfectly I am pleased. I just found it odd that Asus would use that disclaimer.

 

[Bartman39]

I`ll add a thank you to Andy for the info... Some of us might be in the market for another CUSL2?? and want to know the scoop on things... Also I would like to hear if there are any diff`s in the future between the 815E/815EP???

 

[AndyHui]

There won't be any more differences as far as the i815E/i815EP goes. The only thing now is the new i815EB, which supports the Tualatin Pentium III.

 

[SaturnX]

Does anyone know when the i815EB is scheduled to release?

--Mark

 

[Sunny129]

actually, there might be a CUSL2-LS coming out soon. cusl2.com has a link to it. they know almost nothing about it, but they have two pictures and they are speculating what the new feature(s) could be. in place of where the 5th PCI slot would be, there is a black slot of identical length and splits. to me it looks just like a black PCI slot, but their second picture shows a card of some sort occupying the slot. they predict that it some some sort of raid/NIC combination card, thus making it possible to run your NIC and IDE controller card out of the same slot instead of using one slot for an NIC and another for a controller card. it is obvious in the picture that there are some 40 pic adapters and network jack on it. of course if that is what it is, i dont think i'll be investing in such a mobo upgrade...i'm happy w/ my CUSL2

as far as the 815EP being an 815E w/ the i752 disabled and the celery being a P3 w/ 1/2 cache disabled, i kinda wish everything was unique and original. it seems like nothing is its own technology anymore. they just take one technology and cut it in half, or remove this or that, and sell it for less...i dont know, i'm rambling now...

 

[AndyHui]

According to rumours, the i752 takes up the most room in the North Bridge/GMCH of the chipset. Since that would give it the largest probability of failure, then it makes sense to cut it. I just wish they really cut the thing out, then maybe put some embedded DRAM in its place, or beef up the memory controller.

 

[Sunny129]

yeah, that would be a great idea...actually getting rid of it and putting something more useful in its place instead of just leaving it there and disabling it.

 

[Pluto]

There are other differences between CUSL2-C and CUSL2 standard besides the inclusion of onboard i752 video. 1) cusl2-c does not support PPGA celeron cpus 2) cusl2-c does not have an AGP Pro slot 3) cusl2-c has one CNR slot rather than 2 (who cares).

There may have been more, but I guess it is certainly conceivable that Asus would put 815E's in there if they wanted to be the first to market with an &quot;815EP&quot; board.