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Currently leak testing my first water cooler but have a question.

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shohoku

Golden Member
Okay, I have:

Black Ice 120mm Pro w/120mm fan on a shroud

Hydor L30 320GPH Pump - 110/120V

TDX Athlon XP water block

Maze4 gpu water block

And I have set it up in this order:

Pump --> TDX --> Maze4 --> Radiator --> Res --> back to pump.

My question is inside of tube connecting the Radiator and the Res, there are a lot of bubbles. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong here? If so, what is it? Still leak testing and it's been about 10 hours. So far no leaks 😀.


I appreciate any helpful comment(s).
 
You don't need a T if you have a res.
The bubbles are normal. You can turn the rad upside down and shake it around to get the air out of that. It can take a long time for all the air to come out.
 
Originally posted by: pelikan
You don't need a T if you have a res.
The bubbles are normal. You can turn the rad upside down and shake it around to get the air out of that. It can take a long time for all the air to come out.
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Where does the air go?
 
All the bubbles are gone now. Thanks all for your comments. Next question is how do I calculate how much of coolant I need to add to this water cooler?
 
Do you mean how much antifreeze to add to the distilled water? Or how much total liquid to put in the system?
If you mean total liquid just fill it up enough so that the res doesn't suck in air and no water splashes around making bubbles.
The less antifreeze you use the better your temps will be. Antifreeze should be 10%-25% depending on how paranoid of corrosion you are. Corrosion happens when there is both copper and aluminum in the loop. You have a gpu block with an aluminum top but it is anodized which prevents contact between the water and aluminum. So if I were you I'd use 10% antifreeze and 90% distilled water.
 
Used to use water cooling, but got rid of it when I noticed stuff growin in the water. Does the antifreeze prevent this as well? I pumped in all of the blue-green stuff provided with my water cooler, but about a year and a half later, there the little critters were. How often should antifreeze be added to the loop? 
 
Originally posted by: kcbass
Used to use water cooling, but got rid of it when I noticed stuff growin in the water. Does the antifreeze prevent this as well? I pumped in all of the blue-green stuff provided with my water cooler, but about a year and a half later, there the little critters were. How often should antifreeze be added to the loop?
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Antifreeze prevents stuff from growing in the water. You have to change the water at least every six months though.
 
when you say change....can't you just refill what you've lost in that amount of time? Also, looking at the new thermaltake big water, but can't seem to find any decent reveiws, or even an online store that carries it. What's the deal? 
 
When I say "change" I mean empty the system and refill fresh.
I would stay away from kits like the Thermaltake one.
 
Originally posted by: kcbass
Used to use water cooling, but got rid of it when I noticed stuff growin in the water. Does the antifreeze prevent this as well? I pumped in all of the blue-green stuff provided with my water cooler, but about a year and a half later, there the little critters were. How often should antifreeze be added to the loop? 
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Try adding a little bleach to the system. That'll kill those critters.
 
I took the water cooling out a while ago. I'm using a whisperrock now, but I'm gonna switch to one of those zalman 7000's 
 
wow, i didnt know radiator fluid helps with corrosion

when i got my case, it came with water coolant. upon opening the box, i accidentally stabbed the coolant pouch with my knife and lost all the coolant. DISTILLED water can be substituted for the coolant. On the manufacturer's website, they have the coolant amount in ounces. I think it was 9 ounces of coolant (Distilled Water).

I have not noticed any critters in my water, but my computer is only 2-3 months old.

Leaking sucks man. I didnt have those problems, Just take your time and use the right tools, it makes it easier.
 
Originally posted by: pirred908
Distilled water is NOT the same as coolant? Explain how you came up with that.
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ask and you shall receive:

http://www.xoxide.com/kolicore.html


straight from the manufacturer's website...forget the coolant!! distilled water works perfectly fine

dont forget, distilled water is NON-CONDUCTIVE!!!

also, my Koolance digital temp reader never hits over 90 degrees F (in 80 degree indoor weather in TX!!)

runs smooth, like a champ, very quiet
 
Originally posted by: BlueberryJoe
Originally posted by: pirred908
Distilled water is NOT the same as coolant? Explain how you came up with that.
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ask and you shall receive:

http://www.xoxide.com/kolicore.html


straight from the manufacturer's website...forget the coolant!! distilled water works perfectly fine

dont forget, distilled water is NON-CONDUCTIVE!!!

also, my Koolance digital temp reader never hits over 90 degrees F (in 80 degree indoor weather in TX!!)

runs smooth, like a champ, very quiet
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Distilled water is slightly acidic and if your not useing an anti-corrosive inhibitor, it will slowly corode your compnents.

I find it very hard to believe that disstilled water isn't conductive. So what your telling me is if I go buy a bottle of sparkletts distilled water, open my case door, and saturate my compnents in it, nothing will happen?
 
Originally posted by: pirred908I find it very hard to believe that disstilled water isn't conductive. So what your telling me is if I go buy a bottle of sparkletts distilled water, open my case door, and saturate my compnents in it, nothing will happen?
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Actually, it's pure water that's non-conductive. Distilled water is never pure. And dumping it in your case would get impurities in it, thus it would conduct, and short.

So no, distilled water is conductive.
 
So no, distilled water is conductive. <--- all water is conductive. add some radiator fluid to even it out, radiator fluid is anti-conductive, meaning it will even out ANY conductivity in distilled water...water conductivity is dependent of many factors, like salts and environment, age, etc. De-ionized water is the purest form of water you should use for non-conductivity. But we're not talkin about water, we're talking about LIQUID COOLANT!!!



Distilled water has very little conductivity, compared to any other type of water. Tap water or ocean water would be the worst to use.

Distilled water was a quick fix for a problem I had. It works just fine FOR ME. Ive only rebooted my computer twice in 4 months, and the bitch is solid and the water is still very clean (i dont see any residue or ANY type of contaminents in it).

Water can contain different levels of conductivity. Distilled water is like 99% non-conductive, get an OHM meter and check it for yourself!!!!! Im not an electrician, but I do know that Distilled Water is fairly safe to use, unless abused...

What do you mean "corrode your components"? Are you talking about the water cooling components or the motherboard components? I ask because the water touches nothing but plastic, so WTF? It never touches metal so how can water corrode plastic? That would take 100 years atleast!!


The way my water cooling is set up, the water never touches any electrical components, just a big piece of plastic resting ontop of the chip, they are not connected directly and the water only flows thru a plastic tube over a chamber that cools the processor. Its all strictly kept in plastic tubing and a plastic resevoir. Nothing metal ever is in contact with any water, so I dont see how it would conduct any electricity or "corrode my components".

I am no means an electrician or a genius, but i do know that Distilled Water is safe to use as a substitute for "cooling liquid". If you go to the koolance website, 70% of their best "cooling liquid" is distilled water. How can you argue with that? Over half the ingredients is DISTILLED WATER!! (Not even de-ionized water, which is actually ideal!!)

Koolance's website lists 70% distilled water, 27-28% Monoethylene Glycol. Monoethylene Glycol is car radiator fluid. Why cant I buy the distilled water myself (same sheeit they buy fellas!!) mix in some car radiator fluid (27% ratio) and VIOLA!! Got my own top of the line "liquid coolant", homemade.

Radiator fluid is actually anti-conductive, so it will even out ANY conductivity within the distilled water.

"Blue liquid coolant refill for Koolance systems, pre-mixed with distilled water. Total amount = 600cc (20.29 fl oz)."

Check the ingredients and do some research!!

Distilled Water = 70%
Monoethylene Glycol (radiator fluid) = 27%-28%
Phosphate
Nitrate
Carboxylate
Azole
(Anti-Foamer)
(Color Dye)
(pH Regulator) = 2-3%
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http://www.xoxide.com/kolicore.html

face the facts fellas, "cooling liquid" is a rip off. yall go on and buy it and tell me how great it is!! all it is IS DISTILLED WATER AND RADIATOR FLUID WITH A DROP OF BLUE OR GREEN DYE!!!

and if you really want to throw distilled water inside your case, thats on you. thats not my decision nor do I condone such stupidity, but go ahead and try it if you think it will work. I wouldnt do it, but then again, Id make my own coolant before paying $10 for it. I'll post up photos of my baby and you can see the horrible corrosion, the horrible conductivity and the explosions happening from within.

CHEEERS!!
 
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