Current state of Nvidia and ATI AGP video cards

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nemesismk2

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It seems that ATI are still supporting AGP with a cracking line up of AGP video cards. You can get everything from a Radeon 3850, 2600 XT, 2600 Pro, 2400 Pro, x1950 Pro and x1650 Pro! :)

However the news isn't so rosy for Nvidia, all I could find was the old Geforce 6200, 7300 GT and 7900 GS, hmmmm. :(

Does anyone know IF Nvidia is planning on releasing new AGP video cards or is AGP dead as far as Nvidia is concerned?
 
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Auric

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Nvidia is dead... to AGP users. The 7900 and 7950 were absurdly overpriced too but have happily been totally outclassed by AMD/ATI offerings.

3650 is also rolling out now. I guess the 2000 series will be replaced with the smaller GPUs for greater cost effectiveness if nothing else. Unlike Nvidia who dumped dated and/or defective chips onto AGP, AMD's modus operandi actually results in a viable product both for the user and bidness-wise. Kudos.
 
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Lithan

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Yeah Nvidia agp stopped with the 7x's. If you're lucky you can grab a 6800gt or similar for <$50... some people are stupid though. I've seen 6800ultra's go for $300 RECENTLY on ebay... which is absurd.

If your system is still decent (High end 939 rig), the 3850 is probably the way to go if you dont want a platform upgrade. But shop around. It was down around $150 earlier.


Im curious, how much better is a 3650 than the 6800gt?
 
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my wife still has my p4 rig w. 6600gt agp and 1gig memory

just recently i installed sim2 expensiion and its running really badly.. looked up ebay yesterday, bid on a 6800gt for $50, and lost..

if the videocard alone is going to cost me >$50, its about time to consider a mb upgrade...
 
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Actually, the last AGP native cards released by ATi and nVidia was the Radeon X8X0 series and the GeForce 6 series, afterwards, all cards are ported to AGP using their RiaLTo or BR02 PCIe to AGP bridges. The last official AGP product from ATi was the Radeon X1650, the HD 2600/2400 series and the HD 3850 are not official from ATi, but since the RiaLTo bridge is transparent to the driver it should have no issues using the official drivers, the main issue is that sometimes the inf files lacks from the vendor's extension and that's why the drivers cannot recognize those AGP cards. nVidia doesn't have GeForce 8/9 cards on AGP because their BR02 bridge is incompatible with them and nVidia doesn't want to invest in a new bridge... Strangely there's no official Radeon HD 3850 thread here...
 
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I'd guess because most gamers/enthusiests aren't on agp anymore... You're an exception with your dothan of course. I miss my lil dothy. She was a WR chip if I had been bothered to try. So the market for a $160+ (and was $230+ a few weeks ago) agp card isn't really focused on guys comfortable building their own rigs (who I'd assume most of anandtech forums are), it's more geared towards those guys who look on a platform upgrade as "Buying a new computer" and thus see it as $160 vs $500-1500 and hours of backup, transfering, losing a bunch of their data, etc: instead of $160 vs ~$200+. Yeah a LOT of people would spend a BIG premium just to pull a card, plug a new one in and be done with it. There may be a few here, but not nearly a representative portion of the market I'd wager.
 
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Originally posted by: nemesismk2
It seems that ATI are still supporting AGP with a cracking line up of AGP video cards. You can get everything from a Radeon 3850, 2600 XT, 2600 Pro, 2400 Pro, x1950 Pro and x1650 Pro! :)

However the news isn't so rosy for Nvidia, all I could find was the old Geforce 6200, 7300 GT and 7900 GS, hmmmm. :(

Does anyone know IF Nvidia is planning on releasing new AGP video cards or is AGP dead as far as Nvidia is concerned?
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Add the 3650 agp to the list.

http://translate.google.com/tr...agp%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
 
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