Current state of Crossfire motherboards
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Now this is more like it.
More than likely, its just a BIOS issue. DFI boards are generally pretty picky. Orange and Yellow memory slots perform differently for different kinds of ram, such as TCCD. Two of mine wouldnt work at all in orange, wouldnt even boot, just beeped at me. Put them in yellow, and they've been happy since. They also dont generally work well with Corsair ram.
Since its just a DFI motherboard issue, it should be resolved soon. Probably with a BIOS update. Good thing this is a very rare problem.
More than likely, its just a BIOS issue. DFI boards are generally pretty picky. Orange and Yellow memory slots perform differently for different kinds of ram, such as TCCD. Two of mine wouldnt work at all in orange, wouldnt even boot, just beeped at me. Put them in yellow, and they've been happy since. They also dont generally work well with Corsair ram.
Since its just a DFI motherboard issue, it should be resolved soon. Probably with a BIOS update. Good thing this is a very rare problem.
This isn't "rare" by definition- this is all Crossfire motherboards. (which I suppose is "rare" by definition, fortunately)
now by "all crossfire motherboards" you mean:
-all motehrboards with xfire chipset (btw not true)
or
-all dfi motherboards with xfire chipset (btw also not true)
-all motehrboards with xfire chipset (btw not true)
or
-all dfi motherboards with xfire chipset (btw also not true)
well anyways i am getting a dfi crossfire motherboard arround nov 19ish so i will let you guys know the result !
There is only one Crossfire motherboard I know of for sale, so "true".
There is only one motherboard for sale (that I know of) and it has issues:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/forumdi...=6be57098e4851d9d46edd4bff47110d4&f=30
My Crossfire motherboard is fine, arrived fine, booted fine without updates :shrug:
I think Rollo is just blowing it all out of proportion because Crossfire isn't made by his beloved nVidia
I think Rollo is just blowing it all out of proportion because Crossfire isn't made by his beloved nVidia
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Sapphire.html
I know there is not an influx of these but they are available.
I stand corrected, I did not know the Sapphire board was for sale in England.
I do notice it's not on ATIs certified list though:
http://www.ati.com/products/certified/sapphire-mb.html
I do notice it's not on ATIs certified list though:
http://www.ati.com/products/certified/sapphire-mb.html
http://www.ati.com/buy/promotions/crossfireready/motherboards.html To hell with the certified list.
I see several crossfire boards listed there. If ATI list it, then surely that's close enough to certified anyhow?
The colours are off, though. My Sapphire board is black
Is that a sign of bad product marketing, Rollo?
I see several crossfire boards listed there. If ATI list it, then surely that's close enough to certified anyhow?
The colours are off, though. My Sapphire board is black
Is that a sign of bad product marketing, Rollo?
Hmmm. HardOCP said this about the certified list you would like us to ignore:
Why would you say that? What is your basis for saying that?
Not to me?The colours are off, though. My Sapphire board is black
Is that a sign of bad product marketing, Rollo?
BTW, your post is misleading. I did a search on Froogle on every one of the boards on ATIs page and the only one I found was the DFI, just like I said.
You might be able to buy other ones in other parts of the world, but AFAIK, in the USA you cannot.
My point was that there are several boards scheduled for release. The fact that you can't get them in the US is hardly a reason to try and discourage people from wanting one :shrug:
My point is that ATI are practically advertising the boards. Would they do that if they didn't like the quality of the boards? I think not.
The last bit was a little jab at you, sorry I mean.. I couldn't resist, what with your nVidia preference n' all, and apparant ability to take every opertunity to discredit ATI.
My point is that ATI are practically advertising the boards. Would they do that if they didn't like the quality of the boards? I think not.
The last bit was a little jab at you, sorry
I mean.. I couldn't resist, what with your nVidia preference n' all, and apparant ability to take every opertunity to discredit ATI.Originally posted by: Nirach
My point was that there are several boards scheduled for release. The fact that you can't get them in the US is hardly a reason to try and discourage people from wanting one :shrug:
My point is that ATI are practically advertising the boards. Would they do that if they didn't like the quality of the boards? I think not.
The last bit was a little jab at you, sorry
It is true I prefer nVidia these days, but I don't care if anyone buys a Crossfire board. (not like I'm selling nForce boards
)Just thought the article was newsworthy because the one Crossfire board available here is apparently a headache for many people.
Well, to be fair, most of the Rev. A releases of things has a small problem or other.
So far the only problem with my rig is a faulty dimm.. Which is annoying, because I wanna test the thing out properly...
So far the only problem with my rig is a faulty dimm.. Which is annoying, because I wanna test the thing out properly...
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Sounds like DFI wanted to be first to market with backfire boards, and did a poor job. I sure as heck wouldn't buy one. To be honest, I wouldn't buy sli either, as I think they are both a joke.
They are only a joke if you think playable framerates at FEAR, Quake4, and COD2 at 16X12 4X8X are a joke Greenman.
SLI is the only way to get playable framerates at that setting on these modern games, more to come I'm sure.
I've played most of those games, and they look just fine on my tired old rig. Of course I don't have all the eye candy maxed, but it doesn't make all that much differance to me. If it looks good I'm happy.
There's nothing wrong with that either, but I don't think that SLI or Crossfire are a "joke".
They deliver what they promise, and are actually a great value bang/buck. If you put $600 worth of 7800GTs on a $100 SLI motherboard with a $100 psu, with a $330 A64 3800+, for $1100 you have a rig that will totally p3wn ANY single card rig with a $1000 CPU in it. (and the high end CPU rig will cost much more)
That is value!
There's nothing wrong with that either, but I don't think that SLI or Crossfire are a "joke".
They deliver what they promise, and are actually a great value bang/buck. If you put $600 worth of 7800GTs on a $100 SLI motherboard with a $100 psu, with a $330 A64 3800+, for $1100 you have a rig that will totally p3wn ANY single card rig with a $1000 CPU in it. (and the high end CPU rig will cost much more)
That is value![/quote]
That's not a fair comparison. Who would put a $1000 CPU in such a machine? I've done the calculations before, and SLI does not warrant the extra cost. It may perform well in some instances, but it's not worth it. Do you really need 4x AA and 16x AF in everything? No. I'd much rather save $300-$500 and reduce the quality a bit.
That's not a fair comparison. Who would put a $1000 CPU in such a machine? I've done the calculations before, and SLI does not warrant the extra cost. It may perform well in some instances, but it's not worth it. Do you really need 4x AA and 16x AF in everything? No. I'd much rather save $300-$500 and reduce the quality a bit.[/quote]
It's a VERY fair comparison, I think you're misunderstanding me.
What I'm saying is SLI gives you more fps per buck than any other upgrade.
My example is that for $1100 for those four component (mobo/psu/2 7800GTs/3800+) you can outperform any single card computer, period. (including those with $1000 cpus, which are a REALLY bad buy)
Look at the difference on a CPU chart between a 3800+ and a FX57. Is the FX57 doubling the 3800+s fps? No- not even close.
Now look at some benchmarks for FEAR, COD2, or Quake4 at 16X12 4X8X. Is SLI coming close to doubling the framerate? Yep.
Will fast RAM double your fps? No.
Will a high end CPU double your fps? No.
Will a costly motherboard double your fps? No.
ONLY SLI can give you huge performance increases, so by definition it's the best deal.
Sure you "don't need" 4X16X, you don't "need" 10X7 0X0X, you could game at 800X600 0X0X like in the old days.
You are likely thinking "But there's a cheaper medium power solution out there!" and there is- the point is some people aren't will to settle for that level of performance.
There's no "right" answer, you pick the solution that suits your needs and wallet best. SLI costs more because it gives you more.
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