Current NBA Floor leaders?

[SuperGroove]

Moreso a Jordan vs. All thread

Really is there anyone who can take over a game like Jordan could? Iverson is a explosive and can take charge of a game, but his biggest flaw has to be his distribution of the ball. However that's probably because of how there's seemingly a lack of offense and skill on the 76ers other than Iverson.

Jason Kidd is an awesome floor leader. His skills are pretty much limited to his passing skills. He is a decent player, but cannot create his own shot for the most part.

Those are my examples of how floor leaders today are different from how Jordan is.

Kobe has a ways to go before he can even attain Jordan status. He can create his own shot, but he hasn't had the opportunity to take charge of a season rather than individual games spread out over an entire season. Jordan didn't win a Champsionship until his 7th year in the NBA, so we can give Kobe some more time

 

[RudeBoie]

I nominate Shaq. When he's right (no toe injuries), he really is the most dominant force in the game. Kobe is good, but there's something missing- when I watched the Warriors beat the Lakers without Shaq live last December, Kobe was awesome, but no one else was doing anything, and not necessarily because Kobe was ball hogging. The Lakers don't have that much talent outside of the the big two, and Shaq has the ability to make everyone better as they say, while Kobe, I just don't know.

 

[Miramonti]

Kobe is growing into a solid floor leader and'll continue to improve since he's so young. Pippen is an awesome floor leader when it comes to controling tempo and running the offense etc. Players attribute portlands performance the blazers 2nd 1/2 due to Pip's leadership. Kidd is excellent and getting better, especially now that he's hitting outside shots. Stockton is one of the best director/leaders ever, a good scorer but often too reluctant to carry his team in points. Tmac is solid all around and getting better - he's a Pippen-like rebounder with Kobe-like scoring, along with 5 assists a game.

But when it comes to the complete package, director and performer, no one compares to MJ's level, and I think you've got to look at Magic and maybe Larry to get a comperable all around influence since he Magic could step up in either category needed at the time, and Larry was an excellent scorer, as well as passer and rebounder, and both were serious PTP'ers.

 

[spanky]

i nominate rick fox.

 

[hoihtah]

supergroove
iverson averages 5.5 assists per game this season.
i will say that he shoots a lot.
but that's not to take away from him assisting.
5.5 assists per game ain't bad... i wouldn't call that a flaw.

kobe 5.5 apg.
jordan's career apg 5.4
shaq 2.8 apg.
mcgrady 5.3 apg.
pierce 3 apg

look at some of leagues superstars..
would you say that one of these guys' biggest flaw is their distribution of the ball?

i hope not.
so ... why pick on iverson?

he's a shooting guard... not a point.

i'm not taking anything away from jason kidd.
and if you're talking about floor leaders, he definately deserves credit.

but, if you're talking about someone who can take over a game like Jordan did,
i'd say, currently, there's no one better than iverson.

 

[venk]

Don't forget about Stack, he's come a long way since the 'Brickhouse' days.

 

[Smacksmackums]

Kobe can take over a game and on occasion shows greatness. Iverson is too inconsistent and unfortunately his size hurts him a lot. Shaq obviously can take over a game but he's been injured lately and gets fouled so much he loses some of his opportunities. I really dislike the Lakers so you can take my statements to heart when I say them. As for Stackhouse, I hope you're joking. Sure he's improved a ton, but he doesn't dominate a game and the ball doesn't have to go through his hands on each possesion to get a score.

Jordan this year showed spurts of dominance in some of his higher scoring affairs and I'm glad he came back and I hope he can play next year too.

Jason Kidd and Gary Payton are probably two of the biggest floor leaders right now. They can take over games without scoring and GP can score a lot too. JK doesn't have quite a good as a shot but is a better triple double type. The Sonics kind of got shafted this year in terms of media coverage. Their team is only decent but Bones Barry, Desmond Mason, Rashaad Lewis, and Gary Payton are fun to watch and they may have a bright future if they stay together. Umm, I guess that's about it...

 

[MazerRackham]

I think Gary Payton is the bomb... he can really light up the scoreboard when he wants to. And the cool thing is that he really would rather dish it off than score, for the most part

Guys like Marbury and Iverson are the complete opposite, which I don't like all that much. But hey, if I were as good a ballplayer as some of these guys I probably wouldn't pass the ball much either

 

[murphy55d]

Nobody can control a game right now like Jordan could.

Shaq is unbelievable but he needs someone to dish him the ball. Jordan made it all happen himself.

Iverson and Bryant are both elite players but not Jordan-esque.

 

[hoihtah]

i can understand that jordan and iverson , they're not on the same level.
what jordan has achieved, iverson has a long way to go.
but that' just about everyone else in the nba.

what i cannot understand is, iverson being compared at the same level as kobe.
kobe has a great potential. but he is still behind iverson in many aspect.

kobe does have two rings and iverson's got none. but that's very difficult to say that kobe is the main reason for winning them rings.

the rings jordan earned, he earned them.
i don't think the same can be said about kobe's rings.

as for iverson's height.
many people thought that playing him as shooting guard was going to expose his height disadvantage... compared to other shooting guards in the league. but it was rather his quickness that exposed other shooting guards' disadvantage in speed. really... say iverson vs kobe.
who do you think has more difficult time covering eachother?

and i don't understand why people don't seem to understand that only one player can shoot the ball and still play a team basketball. i'm here echoing the very words from coach brown.

again, iverson has 5.5 assist per game.
he does shoot a lot more than anyone else on the team. but that doesn't mean that he doesn't pass... or distribute the ball. and he shoots a lot, cause the team demands that of him. it's a team basketball.

and don't put marbury and iverson on the same level.
marbury demands to shoot more than his teammates. his idea of team basket ball is more like tIm basket ball.

 

[HamSupLo]

mark madsen is a goober

 

[SuperGroove]

Don't get me wrong, Iverson is in my mind one of the best, if not the best, player in the NBA. He can control a game. It's unfortunate that he gets flak for his FG%, but honestly there is no one else on the team that can score! McKey is not the same McKey and Snow's perimeter skills are still developing. There is hardly any offense in Mutumbo.

He may have 5.5 assists per game, but I feel as if Jordan knew where his teammates were at all times. He would slice to the basket and then dish it off. Iverson may do that, but there more so assists that come off set plays.

MJ was a shooting guard too, but no point guard could really do what Jordan did back in his price.

 

[Imdmn04]

Jordan and Iverson are both ballhogs.
But one shoots 48% and one shoots 42%, respectively.