Current Dual Opterons Vs Toledos

[Sirocc0]

i have a dillema i am in and need to upgrade my studio computer and was looking at the dual opterons. do you thinkthe toledos will outperform the opterons out now? or will they be geared towards the consumer more?

 

[Markfw]

Well, If you want to wait, it will be like getting a quad, if you buy a duallie, but other than that, the price, the waiting, etc... Sure they will be better. Do you need that much power ? and are you willing to pay for it ? and are you willing to wait 6 months or more ?

 

[Sirocc0]

there will be dual toledos? i didnt know about thatt....

whats the clockspeed of each proccessor?

2 times X.XXGhz?

 

[Googer]

It was rumored that AMD said toledo will have 10% better performane that two Opeteron Hammer cores. But Two Toledo's on a 2 way server motherboard will have the best performance. prices are said to start at $700 for a single chip.

Also rumor mill has it that amd will introduce a new socket with more than 1000-1100 pins (cannot remember the exact number)

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Sirocc0
there will be dual toledos? i didnt know about thatt....

whats the clockspeed of each proccessor?

2 times X.XXGhz?

Yes amd is planning opteron versions of it's dual core chips.
some where around 2ghz or more. San Dieago is rumored to start at 2.6-2.8ghz and scale up from there! All i can say is watch out intel and take note dell!

Dell better adopt AMD soon, its a bad idea to put all of your eggs into one basket. Like they say Diversify or Die!

 

[Sirocc0]

this is amazing news. we will see a new revolution in cpu performance very shortly. i cant take my 1.6 ghz p4 northwood much longer lol

 

[Pariah]

Dell better adopt AMD soon, its a bad idea to put all of your eggs into one basket. Like they say Diversify or Die!

Or sit around and wait for AMd to go bankrupt, then laugh all the way to the bank and tell everyone, "We told you so."

 

[arcas]

I wonder... Seems like dual Toledos will almost require a NUMA mainboard or else they'll start showing signs of lack of memory bandwidth. With today's Opterons, you can get away with going non-NUMA for dualie because there's generally not much decline in performance (though you can certainly find apps that do benefit from NUMA). The difference between NUMA and non-NUMA should be more readily apparent with dual Toledos since you'll effectively have 4 CPUs vying for memory.

 

[Amaroque]

Originally posted by: Googer
It was rumored that AMD said toledo will have 10% better performane that two Opeteron Hammer cores. But Two Toledo's on a 2 way server motherboard will have the best performance. prices are said to start at $700 for a single chip.

Also rumor mill has it that amd will introduce a new socket with more than 1000-1100 pins (cannot remember the exact number)

I've heard AMD will release the S940 2c CPU first. Then move to S939 2c at a later date for desktops. Again, this is all speculation. Nobody knows for sure, except for AMD.

 

[Sirocc0]

Whats the bgi dfference between numa nad non numa? the price?

 

[arcas]

Originally posted by: Sirocc0
Whats the bgi dfference between numa nad non numa? the price?

In NUMA, each CPU has its own local memory. In a dualie non-NUMA setup, memory is local to only one CPU socket. The other CPU has to perform its memory accesses over the HT bus (in effect, the CPUs share a single memory interface: CPU B relies on CPU A's memory controller). NUMA boards do cost more.

NUMA offers far more memory bandwidth than non-NUMA. For dualie Opterons, most apps didn't care since the Opteron already has lots of bandwidth. For a 4-way Opteron (or dual Toledo), I would think non-NUMA might be more of a bottleneck.

 

[Sirocc0]

thanks, cant wait to see how this plays out.!

 

[Jassi]

I can't fathom any applications that require dual-dual core chips.

 

[Sirocc0]

Originally posted by: Jassi
I can't fathom any applications that require dual-dual core chips.

how about audio processing/audio sequencers? such as cubase sx3 and when andlign extremely large orchestral samples

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: Sirocc0
this is amazing news. we will see a new revolution in cpu performance very shortly. i cant take my 1.6 ghz p4 northwood much longer lol

Thats only with software that takes advantage of dual core/cpu setups.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: Pariah

Dell better adopt AMD soon, its a bad idea to put all of your eggs into one basket. Like they say Diversify or Die!

Or sit around and wait for AMd to go bankrupt, then laugh all the way to the bank and tell everyone, "We told you so."

How long have they said that about Apple? A decade? AMD at worst will have to restructure itself to accept/reflect its marketshare.

 

[Sirocc0]

as far as im concerned audio seuqnecers of th emos tpopular usage support current dual opterons and xeons. notihng makes m ebeleive they wont support quad.

 

[Sirocc0]

Originally posted by: Sirocc0
as far as im concerned audio seuqnecers of th emos tpopular usage support current dual opterons and xeons. notihng makes m ebeleive they wont support quad.

let me rephrase that that, they more than support, but take full advantage of its capabiltiies