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Curious about this...
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HappyPuppy
Lifer
I think you need to be more specific, or give more details.
"blank" bullets can injure or kill depending on the situation.
"blank" bullets can injure or kill depending on the situation.
Nocturnal
Lifer
Well I'm just saying... imagine some guy pulled up next to you and pointed a gun at you. Then imagine him shooting off a few rounds of blank bullets right next to your head. I think I would crap my pants, piss my pants, and probably have a heart attack.
Would something like this be considered attempted murder at that point?
illusion88
Lifer
Does he have lethal intent? Like does he NOT know that the gun is loaded with blanks.
If it was at close range you would suffer injuries. You would get:
1. Burned
2. Ears could suffer major damage
3. Skin damage
Along with others. You could sue his ass for that!
If it was at close range you would suffer injuries. You would get:
1. Burned
2. Ears could suffer major damage
3. Skin damage
Along with others. You could sue his ass for that!
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
No. Attemped murder means an actual attack with intent and MEANS to kill. What if it were a realistic water pistol? No. Nope.
illusion88
Lifer
Its never OK to judge. Now walk to his house and smack his bitch ass up.
pandapanda
Member
1984, actor Jon-Erik Hexum managed to off himself with a blank. Here's the quote from http://www.findadeath.com/Decesed/h/Jon%20Eric%20Hexum/jon_erik_hexum.htm
"On the morning of Friday October 12th, 1984, Jon left his home in Burbank, to report to work. He lived on Kenwood Avenue, at number 2108. Here's a photograph of the house. Kind of understated, I thought, but he wasn't earning the big bucks yet. Here's another shot of the house.
He arrived on the Fox lot. During the day, he was inevitably to film a scene lying in bed. Why do I think he had his shirt off? Anyway, he was playing around with a .44 Magnum, as you do. At around 5:15 p.m. he put the pistol (according to witnesses, it was loaded with three empty cartridges and two blanks) up to his right temple. As he pulled the trigger he smiled, and supposedly said, "Let's see if I got myself with this one." He was apparently unaware that at close range, a blank can cause great damage. And damage it was. The explosion drove a quarter-sized piece of his skull far into his brain. Turns out that the blank was packed with paper inside, and it went straight into his temple and made a bone chip lodge in his brain. Killed by paper.
A witness account: "John smiled and pulled the trigger. There was a loud bang and a bright flash, then black smoke. Jon screamed in agony, then looked kind of amazed as he slumped back onto the bed with blood streaming from a severe head wound. It was horrible." Another witness said, "One of the assistants rushed over to Jon with a towel and wrapped it around his head, trying to sop the blood."
Someone called an ambulance, but before it arrived, several of the crew carried Jon out to one of the studio station wagons, and drove him to the Beverly Hills Medical Center. These days, the hospital had changed hands, and is now a Marriot Hotel.
According to the autopsy report, provided by Celebrity Collectables, it states, "The decendent (Hexum) is a male 26 years old, who shot himself in the head with a prop handgun at a movie studio. It goes on about many things... here are the highlights:
"The brain is soft, mushy, and liquefied, compatible with a respirator braing. There is a maceration and hemorrhagic discoloration on the undersurface of the brain involving the right orbital lobe blah blah blah..."
Regarding the organs:
"Multiple donor sites are found on the anterior and posterior torso, right and left upper extremities, anterior and posterior thighs, and anterior and posterior lower extremities. The left and right eyes have been removed from their sockets, organ harvesting (mm.) through the thorax and abdomen performed through a thoracoabdominal sternal splitting incision from the manubrium to the suprapubic (heh heh) region, the heart has been removed, as well as the left and right kidneys and a small portion of the spleen.""
Panda
"On the morning of Friday October 12th, 1984, Jon left his home in Burbank, to report to work. He lived on Kenwood Avenue, at number 2108. Here's a photograph of the house. Kind of understated, I thought, but he wasn't earning the big bucks yet. Here's another shot of the house.
He arrived on the Fox lot. During the day, he was inevitably to film a scene lying in bed. Why do I think he had his shirt off? Anyway, he was playing around with a .44 Magnum, as you do. At around 5:15 p.m. he put the pistol (according to witnesses, it was loaded with three empty cartridges and two blanks) up to his right temple. As he pulled the trigger he smiled, and supposedly said, "Let's see if I got myself with this one." He was apparently unaware that at close range, a blank can cause great damage. And damage it was. The explosion drove a quarter-sized piece of his skull far into his brain. Turns out that the blank was packed with paper inside, and it went straight into his temple and made a bone chip lodge in his brain. Killed by paper.
A witness account: "John smiled and pulled the trigger. There was a loud bang and a bright flash, then black smoke. Jon screamed in agony, then looked kind of amazed as he slumped back onto the bed with blood streaming from a severe head wound. It was horrible." Another witness said, "One of the assistants rushed over to Jon with a towel and wrapped it around his head, trying to sop the blood."
Someone called an ambulance, but before it arrived, several of the crew carried Jon out to one of the studio station wagons, and drove him to the Beverly Hills Medical Center. These days, the hospital had changed hands, and is now a Marriot Hotel.
According to the autopsy report, provided by Celebrity Collectables, it states, "The decendent (Hexum) is a male 26 years old, who shot himself in the head with a prop handgun at a movie studio. It goes on about many things... here are the highlights:
"The brain is soft, mushy, and liquefied, compatible with a respirator braing. There is a maceration and hemorrhagic discoloration on the undersurface of the brain involving the right orbital lobe blah blah blah..."
Regarding the organs:
"Multiple donor sites are found on the anterior and posterior torso, right and left upper extremities, anterior and posterior thighs, and anterior and posterior lower extremities. The left and right eyes have been removed from their sockets, organ harvesting (mm.) through the thorax and abdomen performed through a thoracoabdominal sternal splitting incision from the manubrium to the suprapubic (heh heh) region, the heart has been removed, as well as the left and right kidneys and a small portion of the spleen.""
Panda
DaveSimmons
Elite Member
Actor Jon-Erik Hexum of the show "Voyagers!" (time travelling with a little kid) and "Cover Up" accidentally killed himself playing with a prop gun loaded with blanks, his last words were "I wonder if there's one in here for me."
True story 🙁
So a person firing blanks could certainly be charged under some reckless endangerment law or a firearm misuse law. If the person was 100% sure about the blanks (had loaded them himself) a good defense attorney could probably prevent an attempted murder charge.
And could keep pandapanda from beating me to the post 🙂
True story 🙁
So a person firing blanks could certainly be charged under some reckless endangerment law or a firearm misuse law. If the person was 100% sure about the blanks (had loaded them himself) a good defense attorney could probably prevent an attempted murder charge.
And could keep pandapanda from beating me to the post 🙂
illusion88
Lifer
They probally wouldnt sell guns to me. I wouldnt pass even the most insecure secruity checks.
BrunoPuntzJones
Lifer
Actually movie guns are not real firearms, they are just...well...blank guns. There are several places that sell them. Availible to civilians.
There's no way in hell Hollywood would allow real firearms in the studios. Granted there are some cases where you'll see breech welded rifles, but that's a bit different. Blank guns will no way, no how fire real ammo. They aren't even the same size. IIRC standard blank ammo is like 6mm.
The rubber/wood/etc bullets you are talking about aren't blanks, they are training ammo. Very popular during old wars, and I suppose would be used even today by poor countries. Wood rounds were issued to n00bs to train with their rifles. It kept them from using real rounds which were sent off to GIs that were in actual combat. Rationing was important stuff, as they didn't know how long WWII was going to last. My old man has some paper shotgun shells (one in 8 gauge, yowsa).
Edit: Just to add, blank guns are really cheap, I was suprised when I first saw them.
And to answer the original question, if you fired blanks at someone, you'd certainly be setting yourself up for a big ass-kicking 🙂
Blanks are normally just crimped rounds, no bullet.
There's no way in hell Hollywood would allow real firearms in the studios. Granted there are some cases where you'll see breech welded rifles, but that's a bit different. Blank guns will no way, no how fire real ammo. They aren't even the same size. IIRC standard blank ammo is like 6mm.
The rubber/wood/etc bullets you are talking about aren't blanks, they are training ammo. Very popular during old wars, and I suppose would be used even today by poor countries. Wood rounds were issued to n00bs to train with their rifles. It kept them from using real rounds which were sent off to GIs that were in actual combat. Rationing was important stuff, as they didn't know how long WWII was going to last. My old man has some paper shotgun shells (one in 8 gauge, yowsa).
Edit: Just to add, blank guns are really cheap, I was suprised when I first saw them.
And to answer the original question, if you fired blanks at someone, you'd certainly be setting yourself up for a big ass-kicking 🙂
Blanks are normally just crimped rounds, no bullet.
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