Curious about the origin of the following IP's.

imported_Tomato

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24.211.234.

66.189.105.


How does IP-identifying work, and how specific can you get in terms of locating whose they are?
 

Zorba

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Hey 24.211.234.34 Is mine, why do you have to go posting it all over the internet like that! :|

:)
 

imported_Tomato

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Okay, here I go shamelessly asking questions... does every computer have a specific IP number? And is it true some people use ID-blockers/scramblers? Blah. *feeling stupid, but hoping for an answer*
 

imported_Tomato

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If you can't do much with an IP, then why do certain sites say "your IP has been logged" in order to prevent fraud, harrassment, etc.?
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: Dezign
If you can't do much with an IP, then why do certain sites say "your IP has been logged" in order to prevent fraud, harrassment, etc.?

They can track it down, but your ISP has the logs. You can't just go to a site where those logs are posted or anything. You need some legal backing (ie, stalkers, threats etc + police) and then maybe they'll give the logs to the cops to track the guy down. Other than that, the closest you can get is usually to the person's ISP and city.
 

imported_Tomato

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Dezign
If you can't do much with an IP, then why do certain sites say "your IP has been logged" in order to prevent fraud, harrassment, etc.?

They can track it down, but your ISP has the logs. You can't just go to a site where those logs are posted or anything. You need some legal backing (ie, stalkers, threats etc + police) and then maybe they'll give the logs to the cops to track the guy down. Other than that, the closest you can get is usually to the person's ISP and city.

Ah, okay. Well, I suppose the city would help.
 

Aves

Lifer
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Looks like the 24.211.234.x is Eastern North Carolina and the 66.189.105.x is in Massachusetts.
 

Alptraum

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Originally posted by: Dezign
Okay, here I go shamelessly asking questions... does every computer have a specific IP number? And is it true some people use ID-blockers/scramblers? Blah. *feeling stupid, but hoping for an answer*

Sort of. When on an IP based network (internet or whatever) every computer will have at least one unique IP (usually only servers will have more then one, and even then its not terribly common). However, changing an IP is easy. The one thing that generally NEVER changes is the MAC address. This is hardcoded to almost every net work card. I have seen equipment that has a changeable MAC address but that stuff is very rare (and VERY pricey). The only stuff I have seen like that is hardware monitoring pods (for ATM switches in my case) and stuff of that nature.

Depending on the resources you can bring to bear you can match an IP to a person most of the time. Or at least a location. Granted to do that you generally either need to be a government agency (FBI, police and so on) and request it from an ISP, or a very knowledgeable hacker in order to compromise the ISPs network to check their logs.

It is possible (and not very hard) to either spoof an IP or redirect it through multiple proxies. However, if you have some of the resources I already mentioned it just comes down to if you want to take the time/trouble to track it down.

About the only thing that comes close to being untraceble on the internet is to use a laptop with a stolen/cloned cell phone. Even then if say the feds are after you they can figure out where you are down to under a square mile.
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: Dezign
If you can't do much with an IP, then why do certain sites say "your IP has been logged" in order to prevent fraud, harrassment, etc.?

Remember the RIAA/Verizon case where Verizon was forced to turn over the identities of some of their users? It's the smae thing. The ISP knows who whas assigned a specific IP and at what time, but without a good reason they won't reveal their identity. They have an obligation to protect the privacy of their users, but if those same users do something illegal, they can be identified.
 

waylman

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Originally posted by: Dezign
Okay, here I go shamelessly asking questions... does every computer have a specific IP number? And is it true some people use ID-blockers/scramblers? Blah. *feeling stupid, but hoping for an answer*

yes, all computers that access the internet have a unique IP. But, as was said, even if you know someone's IP it isn't going to help much. You need to get in touch with the ISP to actually find out who the person is.
 

Aves

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Originally posted by: waylman
yes, all computers that access the internet have a unique IP.
Not exactly.

A lot of companies have just one Public IP that they use for NAT so all the people in the company will appear to the outside world to have the same IP Address.
 

sygyzy

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I just ran that and it was a few 1000's miles off (Texas vs CA). Be careful.
 

Krugger

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well, dial-up/cable etc. makes it difficult, but if you have a static IP (like my school uses) the IP can be traced right to the user. like my IP translates back to my school_id_name@university.edu i know lots of schools that do this too.
 

zCypher

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I ran mine and it said hong kong. Hmmmm...

and if I run the ip address where I'm browsing from here at work it comes up as Quebec City, which is not close to montreal at all. And it says we're fairly close to St-Lazare, which is even further from Quebec City! This thing ain't too hot for me.. :p