Curious about 9600gt vs 8800GT

[ttnuagadam]

Ok so why is it, that even with barely over half of the stream processors, and a mere 50MHZ increase in speed, the 9600GT performs at about 85-90% of the 8800GT's speed?

does no one else find this really strange?

 

[SniperDaws]

Lmao Azn needs to respond to this one.

 

[manimal]

Well the jury is still out on the proper answer tt at the moment. There is some speculation in another thread and I would recomend that you read if you really are interested. Granted there is a lot of useless personal bs strewn about as well so take it all with a grain of salt.

Maybe they crossed the streams like the ghostbusters did get it? stream processors......

 

[ttnuagadam]

yeah i read through the other thread, im still a little lost. From what i read it seems like the TMU's are more important than SP's?

i know a decent bit about video cards, but i'll be honest, today is the first time ive come into this forum, and i cant follow everything that was being talked about in that thread.

for the most part i do, but i think im just not fully up to date on the differences between the G8x and G9x

 

[bryanW1995]

the 9600 gt was using beta drivers so it's possible that the drivers helped it out a lot. other speculation focuses on some sort of mysterious architectural improvements. All things being equal, you'll get better performance from the 8800gt at higher resolutions with the same drivers, but the 8800gt will cost you about $30 more to buy. BFG,keys, and some others ran a lot of tests in some other threads. One thing that I got out of those tests was that shaders are great when you have enough but that performance can really tail off quickly when you're running out of them. The vast majority of the benchmarks that were run by the various websites didn't stress the 64 sp's of the 9600gt enough to highlight its weakness. Depending on what games/resolutions you play now and in the future, you might or might not ever see a significant improvement by using the 8800gt over the 9600gt.

Looking at a number like "85-90%" makes you think that they are comparable cards. What they really are is more like even at lower resolutions, 10-15% advantage for 8800gt at middle res, and a BIG advantage for 8800gt at higher resolution. It's like comparing michael jordan to allen iverson. They both have unbelievable stat lines for their careers, but as the resolution/pressure ramps up, which one do you want on your team? If your team sucks and is always going to be an also-ran then you're better off with iverson b/c he's a lot cheaper and will still fill the seats. If you want to win the title then do everything you can to get jordan.

 

[vanvock]

Sounds to me like the 94 is what the 92 would (should) have been if they hadn't rushed it out the door prematurely just to meet ATI's release.

 

[xWilDx]

Just like everything in the pc world...add a few letters here n there change of price through in a few new drivers with better functions and there you have it lol!

 

[Superpicker]

:brokenheart: I'm still recovering from paying $300 plus shpg for my Superclocked 650 Mhz 8800GT!!

 

[Nathelion]

Originally posted by: Superpicker
:brokenheart: I'm still recovering from paying $300 plus shpg for my Superclocked 650 Mhz 8800GT!!

Sir, we regret to inform you that you have been pwned.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
the 9600 gt was using beta drivers so it's possible that the drivers helped it out a lot. other speculation focuses on some sort of mysterious architectural improvements. All things being equal, you'll get better performance from the 8800gt at higher resolutions with the same drivers, but the 8800gt will cost you about $30 more to buy. BFG,keys, and some others ran a lot of tests in some other threads. One thing that I got out of those tests was that shaders are great when you have enough but that performance can really tail off quickly when you're running out of them. The vast majority of the benchmarks that were run by the various websites didn't stress the 64 sp's of the 9600gt enough to highlight its weakness. Depending on what games/resolutions you play now and in the future, you might or might not ever see a significant improvement by using the 8800gt over the 9600gt.

Looking at a number like "85-90%" makes you think that they are comparable cards. What they really are is more like even at lower resolutions, 10-15% advantage for 8800gt at middle res, and a BIG advantage for 8800gt at higher resolution. It's like comparing michael jordan to allen iverson. They both have unbelievable stat lines for their careers, but as the resolution/pressure ramps up, which one do you want on your team? If your team sucks and is always going to be an also-ran then you're better off with iverson b/c he's a lot cheaper and will still fill the seats. If you want to win the title then do everything you can to get jordan.

this is the difference.