Curiosity strikes again: Does anybody have a K5 100 CPU? :D

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So my roommate & I were annoyed by the noise level put out by his 10/100 switch. It's an old rackmount D-Link, with upgrade slots for routing cards & other expansions. We knew it had two fans in the back, but we didn't remember what size they were. Replacing them should cut down the noise drastically.

When we pulled it open we found not two, but THREE fans, one of which was on a Socket 7 CPU.

Being curious, we pulled it off, cleaned off the decade old HS paste (well, not quite, but still...), & discovered an AMD K5 100. Haven't seen one of those in a while.

Now here's the problem... We put everything back together again (with new paste even), & the stupid switch won't post. Unless we can find another K5 100 to try, this switch has seen it's last.

Considering that I have lapped Celerons, & washed probably a dozen CPUs in various solvents (including water), I have NO clue how we managed to kill it.

Looks like we have to go gigabit.

:D

Pictures, in case anyone finds it interesting

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d33pt

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you most likely can replace it with any x86 nonmmx socket7 cpu... try a p100 or something
 

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I've got a couple Pentium 200s, if ya wanna overclock that switch :)

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Originally posted by: d33pt
you most likely can replace it with any x86 nonmmx socket7 cpu... try a p100 or something

Already tried a P100 I had laying around, but that CPU is most likely dead as well (I used a taser on it).

Just remembered we have a garbage P1xx sitting in the closet, we'll rip that out & try it...

Nope, the non-tasered P100 didn't work either. Although it did make it slightly further into the process of booting, but the second time we powered it on we got nothing again.

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spyordie007

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updated with new pics, tried it with a p100 I had sitting in the bottom of the hall closet (knew I kept it for some reason) :D

pictures

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Buahahaha!

I pulled the second P100 back out, cleaned it off, & put it back - It posts & is passing traffic again.

We just upgraded from a K5 100 to a genuine P100 in our switch.

:D

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Originally posted by: The_good_guy
sweet.. any advantages of going to a better proc?

I wouldn't say the P100 is better, IIRC the K5 was very, very close in performance to a Pentium - AMD didn't hose their floating point performance until the K6 line.

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spyordie007

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: The_good_guy
sweet.. any advantages of going to a better proc?

I wouldn't say the P100 is better, IIRC the K5 was very, very close in performance to a Pentium - AMD didn't hose their floating point performance until the K6 line.

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The CPU will probably never get fully utilized in the setup I have it in now anyways. Since the switch is designed with a slot for upgradable modules they probably have the fact that you could put an ISDN routing module or another 5 port module or whatever in that slot.

I suppose if I were to have a module in it that ran the CPU heavily enough that the CPU were the limiting factor swapping it out like we did would give you an advantage over the "stock" incarnation, however I dont think we will ever see a differance with this old switch...

-Spy
 

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: The_good_guy
sweet.. any advantages of going to a better proc?

I wouldn't say the P100 is better, IIRC the K5 was very, very close in performance to a Pentium - AMD didn't hose their floating point performance until the K6 line.

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And they didn't even hose it... the K6 was based on a Nex-Gen design. :)
 

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Pretty crazy how much hardware was needed for this back in the day. Nowadays you can do all of that on a tiny PCB with a few ethernet controllers and a little mips or whatever chip (what exacty is used in switches? my cable modem uses a mips chip, and my dsl modem uses an arm chip...)

No hunky PSU or anything (that thing is huge :Q)
 

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Buahahaha!

I pulled the second P100 back out, cleaned it off, & put it back - It posts & is passing traffic again.

We just upgraded from a K5 100 to a genuine P100 in our switch.

:D

Viper GTS

Lol, I just read this thread and was gonna offer to mail a few to you-I have a bunch lying around the workbench and I doubt they'll be seeing any more work time. Guess ya never know, though, maybe I'll find a K5 at the heart of some misbehaving network equipment down the road... *paranoid look*
 

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Originally posted by: Adul
i got a mb that was running a p100 to ak6-2 400 :D
got to love this tyan mb

also supports 30 GB hd

That could not have been an Intel chipset however.

What was it a Via..or a ALI Aladdin5? I'd love Tyan board with a ALi chipset... might work better than Gigbytes attempt at one.

GAX5A blows... arrrgg.. worst Mobo ever.. even ECS is better in ways than this mobo... :|
 

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Keep in mind that this is not JUST a switch, it can be upgraded (via the PCI-like expansion slots) to perform routing duties & an ISDN module was also available.

It's quite capable, but it is big & noisy as hell (that we can fix).

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spyordie007

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Originally posted by: Yield
hahah, that's a big switch.. oh man, and with a K5 in it !
that's pretty neat !!
yeah they certainly dont make them like that anymore...

The only big problem with us getting it fixed is that now we dont have a good excuse to go buy a gigbit one... :D

-Spy
 

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my subscription just ran out or i would pm this to you

i am 94.7% sure i have a working K5 100, it could be one generation older than that, but i think it is the right one

i will pull it out tonight and take a picture

email me fobot@fobot.net and i'll send you the picture tonight
 

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LMAO at the alcohol bottles + zippo lighter fluid + computer equipment on the same desk!

 

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Originally posted by: KGB
Originally posted by: Adul
i got a mb that was running a p100 to ak6-2 400 :D
got to love this tyan mb

also supports 30 GB hd

That could not have been an Intel chipset however.

What was it a Via..or a ALI Aladdin5? I'd love Tyan board with a ALi chipset... might work better than Gigbytes attempt at one.

GAX5A blows... arrrgg.. worst Mobo ever.. even ECS is better in ways than this mobo... :|

it is an intel HX chipset on a tyan tomcat III, also have 458 MB of EDO on it :p