Crystal Power supply

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Zepper

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X-Connect: $30. PSU for $100. Crystal: No UL/RU or TUV certifications - NOT for my systems! Click my sig if you want a REAL PSU...
.bh.

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Patrick Wolf

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I should also mention that on the ULTRA X-Connect box, it says "Patent Pending". Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. :)
 

jonnyGURU

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Originally posted by: Zepper
X-Connect: $30. PSU for $100. Crystal: No UL/RU or TUV certifications - NOT for my systems! Click my sig if you want a REAL PSU...
.bh.

:moon:

Zepper, man. I know you sell Zippy's and you sell them at an AWESOME price. No doubt. And if I wanted a solid power supply with no frills, I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up. I've actually got a "mere" 350W Zippy running a dual Athlon with a four drive SATA RAID5 and have no problems (it's our CRM DB server.)

That said, I have to ask why you're constantly referring to Ultra as a $30 power supply that sells for $100?

You say that they're made by PowMax. That's incorrect.

I can't find a $30 power supply with > 28A on the asV rail. The US model Ultra 500W has 34A and I can't find a $50 power supply with 28A or more on the 12V!

I can understand biased when you sell another product, but why are you so hard on the Ultra?
 

GprophetB

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arggghhh, i find my self spending more and more on parts.

anyone else just jump on that logitech 5.1 system for 50$?
 

GprophetB

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anyone care to educate me a little bit


What are these reffering to?

+3.3 V -- 26 A
+5 V -- 35 A
+12 V -- 15 A
-12 V -- 0.8 A
-5 V -- 0.5A
+5 VSB -- 2A
 

irwincur

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I bought a Rosewill 500w PSU a while back (I know, but I wanted to be a Guinea Pig) and it has been fine. Very stable, no problems, overall good impressions. It has a large 120mm fan and a LED (for those that like it) as well as a simple hi/lo/auto fan control - but it is quiet as hell. Is it as stable as my old Enermax 300w, probably not, but then again my old Enermax could not power the two additional HDDs, and three additional PCI cards I have added to my computer since I bought this. Does not really seem to be breaking a sweat at all.

So if you have $50 to spend, look at this one. I am not the only one who has had decent results. If you have more to spend I would look at an Antec (have one in my HTPC) or an Enermax (my old one was a beast).
 

jonnyGURU

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Originally posted by: GprophetB
anyone care to educate me a little bit


What are these reffering to?

+3.3 V -- 26 A
+5 V -- 35 A
+12 V -- 15 A
-12 V -- 0.8 A
-5 V -- 0.5A
+5 VSB -- 2A

That's the maximum amperage available on a rail.

So your +12V is only able to produce 15A, or 180W (12V X 15A = 180W.)

Remember, if a power supply is 200W or 300W or whatever, that's only it's combined maximum power. Back in the day when only motors like drive motors, fan motors, etc. used 12V and CPU's stepped down voltage off of a 5V rail, it wasn't such a big deal. But now, manufacturers are getting higher wattage and lower voltage off of regulating 12V putting more load on the 12V rail.

Here's a pretty decent calculator that you can use to get my point across (if you pick "other" on any items, they expect you to fill in voltage values yourself, so I suggest selecting items as close to yours as possible if they're not listed) : http://takaman.jp/D/?english

 

Zepper

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Johnny Guru:
"... Acer and AOpen PSUs are very well made..." Well they should be, most of them are rebadged Fortrons...

And yes, I do have a couple of Zippys for sale on eBay. And they are likely the only ones I'm ever going to have for sale as I don't sell parts as a business - just taking advantage of an opportunity. I have no stake in the success of Zippy as their reputation far precedes them...bh.

.bh.

The :sun: , the :sun: !
 

jonnyGURU

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A bunch of enthusiasts that post in a thread proves that they're made by Leadman? NONE of those people making the claim I'm sure either own or have even seen or held an X-Connect. Open one up and it has a Wintech part number right on the PCB. Run the UL listing number and it's listed as manufacturered by Wintech. Open a Leadman and you've got something that looks COMPLETELY different that I believe isn't even UL listed! I don't even think Leadman makes Leadman anymore. I think they've been reduced to just a reseller (it's a tough market out there.)

Because someone sells something under their own brand and they've been known to make similar products in the past means that they make the other product as well? That's some funked up logic there, Zepper. Did you ever see my Grundig radio in Nexxtech packaging analogy in the other thread that mentioned X-Connect that you crapped on? Or did you refrain from responding because you know I'm right? :Q

Look. Here's an example: I hate Abit. Absolutely loathe them. And I'll post that from time to time and give my reasons based on my personally owning them and having sold them and servicing them, which is fair for you to do with power supplies since you're a vendor yourself. But when you say, "I hate Ultra" based on nothing more than what other people say or based on where they're being sold out of, you're ccompletely dis-crediting yourself. I don't go around saying "I heard Abit boards are made by PC Chips," whether it's true or not, just to solidify my point. If someone wants to argue with me that Abit must be a good board because they've got one and it's rock solid and whatever, then fine. I back down. You've going around to every forum you can find and crapping on Ultra's product based on NOTHING but rumors backed by no investigation or personal experience.

I don't know anything about Crystal power supplies except for it only has a 14A rating on the 12V rail and it's very light in weight (ligher ship weight than any other power supply from the vendors that have them and isn't acrylic heavier than the steel they use to house power supplies?) Those are the FACTS and the only FACTS I know. I don't know who makes them or what their RMA rate is. But if someone that OWNS a Crystal can tell me that they've been able to pull 168W off the 12V of a Crystal power supply and the 12V rail never waivered from 5% of 12V in either direction, I'd go ahead and say, "Wow. Not bad." and leave it at that.

And yes, a lot of Acer's power supplies are made by Fotron. They often don't even come up with their own model numbers and use Fortron's, but even the AOpens that aren't made by Fortron have been good to me. By weight alone the 300W that comes in their QF50 case is heavier than half the 500W's on the market and that unit's not made by Fortron (thank God, because if it did, it'd be a lot more expensive too!) :)