crysis on XP or VISTA??

[Lazark]

I have a new rig, but I don`t know which OS to put in.
How about the performance between XP v/s vista in crysis (doing the "tweak" to have very high on xp)
and also, about the new games like gears of war, world in conflict, COD4, etc.. do I stick with xp or change?


thanks a lot

 

[cheapherk]

Well, if you want Crysis to take advantage of DX10, you'll have to install Vista. I was using Vista, but went back to XP due to authenticity issues (even though it was activated, it still was saying it wasn't authentic- I got tired of dealing with it.). Games did run a bit slower with Vista although I must note it certainly didn't interfere at all with my gaming performance (so what if I was getting 65fps in XP and only 53 with Vista). I never personally tried Crysis with Vista (I can't remember what OS I was using for the Crysis MP beta).

I guess I'm not really answering your question. I guess your biggest decision will have to do with whether or not you want to take advantage of DX10 (assuming you have a DX10 capable video card).

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Just as an observation, DX10 is the way to go.

 

[nova2]

probably XP unless the lower framerates in Vista are minor or not enough to bother you.

I'd suggest you instead ask about this over at the crymod forums (official) or crysis-online or incrysis

 

[Lazark]

thanks for the reply..an abou the bits version...which is better...64 bit or 32 bit?

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

The 64-bit version won't hold you back when you upgrade your RAM to 4GB or higher.

 

[Canai]

Run 64-bit XP. All the DX10 features that are supposedly Vista only are simply disabled via config files when running XP, so you can get a config from the crymod forums to enable all the eye candy.

 

[manimal]

Crysis runs way better in xp. If you want DX10 effects download the ultrahighconfig 1.3 mod and have all the eye candy of DX10 with a TON less overhead. I get steady 30-60 fps with a SLI G92 GTS's. On my vista partition it runs 10 fps on average slower and has a ton more slowdowns.

 

[Piuc2020]

It's not exactly DX10... as some effects are Vista-exclusive, it's just a tweak to enable the Very High setting under Windows XP, though the difference is neglible they are still not DX10 features or a DX10 hack by any means.

If you want the absolute best performance then XP is the way to go. If you want the better system then install Vista unless you don't mind dual booting both and using XP as a gaming-exclusive OS and Vista as a general purpose OS. It's what I do unless I really want to play in DX10.

 

[Captante]

I installed & ran on both XP with max-quality tweaks & Vista 32-bit ... Vista/DX10 still looked marginally better but took what I consider to be a significant performance hit, so I mainly used XP.


Edit: Note that this was on the same PC which dual-boots XP Pro & 32-bit Vista Ultimate

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Canai
Run 64-bit XP. All the DX10 features that are supposedly Vista only are simply disabled via config files when running XP, so you can get a config from the crymod forums to enable all the eye candy.

The problem is what happens when newer more powerful DX10 video cards arrive and newer DX10 games are released,I would go Vista for more future proofing DX wise.

 

[AMDZen]

I am running Vista x64 and have zero issues. The only problems I have are with games that had issues with XP any way, like the really old Win95/98 games

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: manimal
Crysis runs way better in xp. If you want DX10 effects download the ultrahighconfig 1.3 mod and have all the eye candy of DX10 with a TON less overhead. I get steady 30-60 fps with a SLI G92 GTS's. On my vista partition it runs 10 fps on average slower and has a ton more slowdowns.

nonsense .. it is not the same

the CryTek davs have not yet optimized Crysis for 64-bit .. when they do it will be at least 20% faster than a 32-bit OS .. probably by next year

 

[Maximilian]

Dont choose your OS based on how crysis will run on it. I ran crysis on vista x64 ultimate and it was fine and on XP x32 pro and it was fine, no difference. I downgraded to XP because vista is a pita for other reasons.

From what i gather DX10 dosent look all that much better but theres a big hit in performance wirh DX10 enabled. If you have SLI 8800GTS 512's or something then maybe DX10 would be usefil to you.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Soviet
Dont choose your OS based on how crysis will run on it. I ran crysis on vista x64 ultimate and it was fine and on XP x32 pro and it was fine, no difference. I downgraded to XP because vista is a pita for other reasons.

From what i gather DX10 dosent look all that much better but theres a big hit in performance wirh DX10 enabled. If you have SLI 8800GTS 512's or something then maybe DX10 would be usefil to you.

There is *nothing* wrong with Vista [period]

DX10 does look better

but there is currently NO rigs that will play Crysis with good frame rates
[well, maybe at 10x7] ... when it DOES, Vista 64 will be the OS of choice to play it - it will run MUCH better than with Vista 32 ,, and FORGET XP if you really want to "experience" Crysis

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Soviet
Dont choose your OS based on how crysis will run on it. I ran crysis on vista x64 ultimate and it was fine and on XP x32 pro and it was fine, no difference. I downgraded to XP because vista is a pita for other reasons.

From what i gather DX10 dosent look all that much better but theres a big hit in performance wirh DX10 enabled. If you have SLI 8800GTS 512's or something then maybe DX10 would be usefil to you.

There is *nothing* wrong with Vista [period]

DX10 does look better

but there is currently NO rigs that will play Crysis with good frame rates
[well, maybe at 10x7] ... when it DOES, Vista 64 will be the OS of choice to play it - it will run MUCH better than with Vista 32 ,, and FORGET XP if you really want to "experience" Crysis

Meh.. I'd rather "experience" my computer working properly all the time, so I'll take a pass on Vista just to get a couple of graphical effects in Crysis.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Soviet
Dont choose your OS based on how crysis will run on it. I ran crysis on vista x64 ultimate and it was fine and on XP x32 pro and it was fine, no difference. I downgraded to XP because vista is a pita for other reasons.

From what i gather DX10 dosent look all that much better but theres a big hit in performance wirh DX10 enabled. If you have SLI 8800GTS 512's or something then maybe DX10 would be usefil to you.

There is *nothing* wrong with Vista [period]

DX10 does look better

but there is currently NO rigs that will play Crysis with good frame rates
[well, maybe at 10x7] ... when it DOES, Vista 64 will be the OS of choice to play it - it will run MUCH better than with Vista 32 ,, and FORGET XP if you really want to "experience" Crysis

Meh.. I'd rather "experience" my computer working properly all the time, so I'll take a pass on Vista just to get a couple of graphical effects in Crysis.

What exactly about your computer isn't "working properly" with Vista?

 

[apoppin]

in MY experience - from many dozens of threads - 100% of the time it is the user, not Vista that has "issues"

Vista is as Stable and as Fast as XP [PERIOD] in gaming.

And it is the choice for todays serious gamer .,... the rest of you still using a primitive OS are only fooling yourselves. We know better and can *prove* it to all but the most technically incompetents.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Soviet
Dont choose your OS based on how crysis will run on it. I ran crysis on vista x64 ultimate and it was fine and on XP x32 pro and it was fine, no difference. I downgraded to XP because vista is a pita for other reasons.

From what i gather DX10 dosent look all that much better but theres a big hit in performance wirh DX10 enabled. If you have SLI 8800GTS 512's or something then maybe DX10 would be usefil to you.

There is *nothing* wrong with Vista [period]

DX10 does look better

but there is currently NO rigs that will play Crysis with good frame rates
[well, maybe at 10x7] ... when it DOES, Vista 64 will be the OS of choice to play it - it will run MUCH better than with Vista 32 ,, and FORGET XP if you really want to "experience" Crysis

Meh.. I'd rather "experience" my computer working properly all the time, so I'll take a pass on Vista just to get a couple of graphical effects in Crysis.

What's your problem?..... we are here to help,btw it really is not rocket science to get Vista working as good if not better then XP, infact dead easy,as to gaming I have given up on finding a 32 bit I can't run in Vista x64,think my last count was 66+ games installed (that includes Starforce,SecuROM,TAGES copy protected retail games).I also have Vista x86 on my lappy, that too is working fine and 100% stable..

DX10 is still pretty new,don't forget we have the next wave of games and video cards due,are we going to hear the same old excuses?..I remember when I could not run some of my DX9 games well when DX9 was new,nothing that tweaking settings in options or upgrading video card etc could not fix,I sure did not blame XP back then....Nothing is stopping people running DX 10 games in DX9 mode for now if they want the performance over DX10 (depending on your hardware).

One tip for Vista gamers (even XP gamers),make sure you install/update to latest version of DX9.0c(YES DX9.0c) from Microsoft's website or from here .

 

[zixxer]

I'm very surprised to see everyone recommending running vista for crysis. Everything I've read on the crymod forums recommends running in DX9 even if w/ vista. I'm using the "triple C pack" in vista using dx9 and the time of day mod and it looks better than dx10 and is faster too.. (using lvl 4 - the highest recommended with the triple c thing)


Now.. It's also the first I've heard to run 64bit... afaik nvidia driver support isn't the greatest... yet.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Soviet
Dont choose your OS based on how crysis will run on it. I ran crysis on vista x64 ultimate and it was fine and on XP x32 pro and it was fine, no difference. I downgraded to XP because vista is a pita for other reasons.

From what i gather DX10 dosent look all that much better but theres a big hit in performance wirh DX10 enabled. If you have SLI 8800GTS 512's or something then maybe DX10 would be usefil to you.

There is *nothing* wrong with Vista [period]

DX10 does look better

but there is currently NO rigs that will play Crysis with good frame rates
[well, maybe at 10x7] ... when it DOES, Vista 64 will be the OS of choice to play it - it will run MUCH better than with Vista 32 ,, and FORGET XP if you really want to "experience" Crysis

Meh.. I'd rather "experience" my computer working properly all the time, so I'll take a pass on Vista just to get a couple of graphical effects in Crysis.

What's your problem?..... we are here to help,btw it really is not rocket science to get Vista working as good if not better then XP, infact dead easy,as to gaming I have given up on finding a 32 bit I can't run in Vista x64,think my last count was 66+ games installed (that includes Starforce,SecuROM,TAGES copy protected retail games).I also have Vista x86 on my lappy, that too is working fine and 100% stable..

DX10 is still pretty new,don't forget we have the next wave of games and video cards due,are we going to hear the same old excuses?..I remember when I could not run some of my DX9 games well when DX9 was new,nothing that tweaking settings in options or upgrading video card etc could not fix,I sure did not blame XP back then....Nothing is stopping people running DX 10 games in DX9 mode for now if they want the performance over DX10 (depending on your hardware).

One tip for Vista gamers (even XP gamers),make sure you install/update to latest version of DX9.0c(YES DX9.0c) from Microsoft's website or from here .

I cant install the id anthology disks on my vista 64 system and wish someone could tell me how to do it. All i want to do is play old school quake tennabrae or glquake and cant even get the installer to run. I've read online where people say just to copy the data directory over and play from there, but i can't even do that because i dont have a data directory. I have a setup.exe file that wont run even as winxp sp2 compatability mode and a big dat file, but no data directory.

Any suggestions?

btw, direct x 9c on vista? Won't installing that overwrite dx10?

 

[AMDZen]

Did you try extracting the .dat file? Most progs do this I think, WinRAR, 7zip, Izarc = the ones I use and I know one of them extracts .dat files

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Did you try extracting the .dat file? Most progs do this I think, WinRAR, 7zip, Izarc = the ones I use and I know one of them extracts .dat files

good idea, i'll try that when i get home.. or i can install it on one of my other xp systems.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: slag
btw, direct x 9c on vista? Won't installing that overwrite dx10?

There's discrete runtimes in Vista for DX9 and DX10. DX10 is the first DX that isn't backwards compatible with previous versions necessitating the need for the DX9 runtime to be installed at some point after you install Vista as it doesn't come with it pre-installed. If you're running an older game, it'll be whatever version of DX9 that came with that game so as someone else mentioned, you'll want to update to the latest version or download the stand-alone version at some point.

As others mentioned, enabling "high quality" hacks in XP isn't DX10 quality no matter how you slice it; plenty of review sites have posted side-by-side images and noted the differences are even more noticeable when playing the game. XP performance is certainly better than Vista but some of that is to be expected with DX10 vs. DX9 and its typically not enough difference to make one version more playable over another. Crysis runs better in DX10 mode than in DX9 in Vista however, which seems to point to driver/client optimizations for DX10 and room for improvement in DX9 mode.

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: apoppin
in MY experience - from many dozens of threads - 100% of the time it is the user, not Vista that has "issues"

Vista is as Stable and as Fast as XP [PERIOD] in gaming.

And it is the choice for todays serious gamer .,... the rest of you still using a primitive OS are only fooling yourselves. We know better and can *prove* it to all but the most technically incompetents.

Wow.. Really? You're stating an awful lot of things as fact in that post that I'd say 95% of the people would strongly disagree with based on personal experience. I'm not saying if you tweak the hell out of Vista that you can't get it running ok, but why would I want to waste my time doing that just to get it to run ok? And I've seen Crysis in DX10 vs DX9 w/ mods, and really, you're kind of deluding yourself if you think there's a huge difference there.

My own personal experience with Vista was my sound card not working at all, games running slower, and random glitches popping up all over the place, so yeah, it was a great gaming experience.