Crysis 2. Anyone buy it and currently playing it?

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RandomSanity

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Wow, lots of hate for that comment. Yes, I've played the game for several hours so my opinion has ground.

Since when can you return opened software? Especially PC software?

One retail, one download.

So you got the game today and have played through it already? Or you are just going by reviews and will return it un-opened? Yes, all of these reviewers played the game. I read the most of the reviews and they have videos, etc. Not sure where you are getting at and why you'd want to return it. logic fail?

Since you failed to realize this wasn't meant to be literal, I will point out to you that this was sarcasm. For one who claims I don't understand logic you fail quite hard yourself.

I've had the game for over a week, no I did not pirate it.

My point is this game is a huge step down from the original Crysis, and EAs influence is very strongly seen. For die hard fans of Crysis this game will be disappointing. For fans of the Call of Duty series, this game is excellent. Also, it is very apparent that many reviewers were paid to increase their scores, believe what you will, this is a fact.

After installing the game and playing it right, since I trust that you are an objective and judicial individual when expressing your criticism of a video game?

Playing it right? I wasn't aware there was a wrong way to play a video game.

Why would I be objective? This is my personal opinion and I express it based on my experience as a fan and long time player of the first Crysis games.
 
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TechBoyJK

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So your saying Halo or Gears played on a PC is a PC game? Your an idiot. Just cause you can play it on PC doesn't make it anywhere near a PC game. PC games are games that were developed on PC, for PC. Oblivion and Fallout could be played on PC, but the control's screamed console game.

I was generalizing. Obviously something WOW, etc. is clearly a PC game. It was designed with keyboards and mice in mind. However, a FPS just isn't that complicated. But I've also played the original Halo on PC and it played like any other "pc" fps.

How often is the acronym PCFPS thrown around to differentiate a PC FPS from a console FPS?

The only MAJOR difference is controls. if I'm playing HALO on PC with an XBOX 360 controller.....
 
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TechBoyJK

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Wow, lots of hate for that comment. Yes, I've played the game for several hours so my opinion has ground. The single player is quite enjoyable, if not what I was expecting and still does not live up to the original. The multiplayer is very disappointing.



One retail, one download.



Since you failed to realize this wasn't meant to be literal, I will point out to you that this was sarcasm. For one who claims I don't understand logic you fail quite hard yourself.

My point is this game is a huge step down from the original Crysis, and EAs influence is very strongly seen. For die hard fans of Crysis this game will be disappointing. For fans of the Call of Duty series, this game is excellent.



Playing it right? I wasn't aware there was a wrong way to play a video game.

Why would I be objective? This is my personal opinion and I express it based on my experience as a fan and long time player of the first Crysis games.

Well, to be clear, I put a ? after logic fail because I wasn't certain I was interpreting things correctly.
 

sigurros81

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Playing it right? I wasn't aware there was a wrong way to play a video game.

Why would I be objective? This is my personal opinion and I express it based on my experience as a fan and long time player of the first Crysis games.

Oh no, I forgot a comma, you got me good! Comedic genius in the house here. "Why be objective?" Are you admitting that it's all verbal flatulence coming out of that hole in your face?
 

RandomSanity

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I was generalizing. Obviously something WOW, etc. is clearly a PC game. It was designed with keyboards and mice in mind. However, a FPS just isn't that complicated. But I've also played the original Halo on PC and it played like any other "pc" fps.

How often is the acronym PCFPS thrown around to differentiate a PC FPS from a console FPS?

The only MAJOR difference is controls. if I'm playing HALO on PC with an XBOX 360 controller.....

Its called Aim-assist, nearly every console FPS has it. The difference between playing a FPS on a PC and playing a FPS on a console, is that you have to use an aim bot in order to play adequately on the console where a mouse provides you with enough accuracy to play purely on skill.

The Crysis 2 multiplayer demo had aim-assist in it and is therefore quite obviously designed with consoles in mind.
 

Zargon

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I was generalizing. Obviously something WOW, etc. is clearly a PC game. It was designed with keyboards and mice in mind. However, a FPS just isn't that complicated. But I've also played the original Halo on PC and it played like any other "pc" fps.

How often is the acronym PCFPS thrown around to differentiate a PC FPS from a console FPS?

The only MAJOR difference is controls. if I'm playing HALO on PC with an XBOX 360 controller.....

it CAN be. How many controls can you map? how baout setting toggles for certain things? how tweakable are the controls? generally the more of a straight port, the less customizable the controls are(some have had xbox 360 button icons in the game before)

from teh demo I thought the controls were pretty tweakable, but I didnt that far into and havent decided if I will get this or not.


a few other hallmarks of consoles(not saying crysis 2 fills these)
no dedicated hosting
small server limits for no reason
crappy graphics
crappy graphical tweaking options

others can mention more, I'm in the middle of some php/mysql so my heart isnt really in it


like said before, if the rumors of good eyefinity/nv surround are true, then kudos

and boo if the no CF support is true
 

TechBoyJK

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Its called Aim-assist, nearly every console FPS has it. The difference between playing a FPS on a PC and playing a FPS on a console, is that you have to use an aim bot in order to play adequately on the console where a mouse provides you with enough accuracy to play purely on skill.

The Crysis 2 multiplayer demo had aim-assist in it and is therefore quite obviously designed with consoles in mind.

Again, that's strictly controls then and not by any means something that signficantly differentiates a 'pc' game from a 'console' game. So what if it was designed with consoles in mind? You know they removed aim-assist in the latest patch?
 

RandomSanity

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Oh no, I forgot a comma, you got me good! Comedic genius in the house here. "Why be objective?" Are you admitting that it's all verbal flatulence coming out of that hole in your face?

Look up subjective in the dictionary. I was not being objective and was therefore being subjective, as all opinions are. Reviewers are supposed to be objective, however this is very difficult with something like a video game and usually comes down to the authors personal opinion, which is again subjective.

P.S. Which comma did you forget? I don't see how that would change what you said.

Again, that's strictly controls then and not by any means something that signficantly differentiates a 'pc' game from a 'console' game. So what if it was designed with consoles in mind? You know they removed aim-assist in the latest patch?

I apologize for snapping at you in my last post, sigurros's nonsense had me annoyed. It is not just the controls, it is the mechanics of the entire game. You can tell it was designed in order to be optimal on a console, with a console's controls as opposed to being designed for the functionality of a PC.

I'm not sure if you played Dragon Age I and II on PC, but this is one of the best examples I could use. Dragon Age Origins was designed for PCs and ported to consoles, while Dragon Age II was designed with consoles in mind. If you compare the two games, they removed several mechanics from the first game that made it such an excellent game for PC users because they were not optimal for consoles. This does not make it a bad game.
 
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CrazyAznDriver

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The review on [H] is hilarious!
Crysis 2 Pretty Much Sucks a Sloppy...

We have played them all! Farcry, Crysis, and now Crysis 2. If you were relying on Crytek to stress your new AMD or NVIDIA GPUs, well, you will likely have to wait another 4 years, or never probably. Crysis 2 graphics suck. Yes the graphics suck and you all know why. Crytek sold us out for a bunch of pussy 360 gamers. Gameplay is about as exciting and motivating as pulling a scab off your dog's scrotum. Open gameplay? Yeah right. Challenging? Not in the least. Crysis 2 goes into the "Never Finished" game bin with Daikatana. Come to think of it, Daikatana had better multi-player.

I don't often gripe about game devs selling out, but Crytek sure did. Crytek is not about innovative gameplay and astounding graphics any more. Crytek is about ripping me off for $60. I think Crytek would have gotten better press if it had not of even released its water-downed and anemic PC version of this "game." I hope Cevat Yerli chokes on this giant flaccid floppy penis of a game, while he is pulling out his overstuffed-wallet. Yeah, I just said that, and I meant it.

At least my 10 year old son thinks it is awesome. Wish he would give me the $60 back. Crysis 2 will be a great buy....when it hits the $2.99 price point on Steam.
 

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my buddy was playing this yesterday and the console imposed limitations are really obvious.

As mentioned, the texture quality is really bad and map sizes are small, which are handicaps due to consoles having limited memory.

thats not to say this game is worthless but as it stands now, imo the original crysis looks better and it will take several patches for this game to be top notch.

"maximum console" describes it pretty well.
 

TechBoyJK

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Look up subjective in the dictionary. I was not being objective and was therefore being subjective, as all opinions are. Reviewers are supposed to be objective, however this is very difficult with something like a video game and usually comes down to the authors personal opinion, which is again subjective.

P.S. Which comma did you forget? I don't see how that would change what you said.



I apologize for snapping at you in my last post, sigurros's nonsense had me annoyed. It is not just the controls, it is the mechanics of the entire game. You can tell it was designed in order to be optimal on a console, with a console's controls as opposed to being designed for the functionality of a PC.

I'm not sure if you played Dragon Age I and II on PC, but this is one of the best examples I could use. Dragon Age Origins was designed for PCs and ported to consoles, while Dragon Age II was designed with consoles in mind. If you compare the two games, they removed several mechanics from the first game that made it such an excellent game for PC users because they were not optimal for consoles. This does not make it a bad game.

I haven't played either Dragon Age's, so I don't have any experience with that.

I just don't see the hate. It seems those that are enjoying it the most are those who didn't play Crysis 1. I've got two friends who have bought it for xbox.. One plays COD all the time, and the other is a FallOut fanatic. I've heard nothing but positive things from them. Neither experienced the hiccups with the demo so they didn't have any experience before buying it other than videos they saw.

I know Crytek pushed some boundaries with Crysis and it sold 3million copies, but they are a for profit company, and they made a bunch of acquisitions during Crysis 2's development. And with Crysis they also had to sit back and watch as console gamers picked up competitor titles. I think they NEED the revenue if they are going to stay competitive. They have several other games in development that are going down the same path as Crysis 2, and this is their FIRST attempt at launching games on console, so maybe this all might be everything they need to polish their next attempts. Hopefully they are watching closely and will learn what mistakes not to repeat when they finally get to the new TimeSplitters.

I'd personally like to see them remake Far Cry using CE3 and pushing it out to consoles.
 
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RandomSanity

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I just don't see the hate. It seems those that are enjoying it the most are those who didn't play Crysis 1. I've got two friends who have bought it for xbox.. One plays COD all the time, and the other is a FallOut fanatic. I've heard nothing but positive things from them. Neither experienced the hiccups with the demo so they didn't have any experience before buying it other than videos they saw.

This is the problem, the hate is all from PC gamers. Most console gamers think this is an amazing game because they are fond of console style shooters and either have never experienced the PC version of Crysis, or did not care for the difficulty. It is simply a different style of game which appeals to some and not to others. PC gamers are part of an older generation which is falling on difficult times as developers see the opportunity for higher profits among the younger console generation and slowly abandon their loyal PC fans.
 

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Let's face it. This is not the game PC gamers have been waiting for. But Crysis wasn't "all that" either.

I got it for free with my 8800gt, which was pretty good hardware at the time, and I played through the entire game at 1680x1050, no AA, and averaged under 25fps. It was fun for a while, but the last 1/3 was just a piss poor game (and the framerate dropped some more just for good measure). And let's face it...it didn't look that good. The lighting and greenery was cool, but the textures and character models were pretty low quality. The darn game barely runs on modern hardware. It's terribly inefficient...BC2 runs better and I think it looks much better (but that's up for debate, of course).

Did we really expect Crytek to put out another game that barely worked on anybody's hardware? Of course not - they're in it to make money, just like anyone here who has a job is. It appears to be a pretty darn good console game, which is to say a passable PC game. It will drop in price soon, and almost everyone on this board will buy it.
 

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The review on [H] is hilarious!

With that kind of language you can NOT quote that in the tech forums. Some people access it from work and avoid OT so they don't get in trouble with that on their work PC. Yes they shouldn't access it from work blah blah, still.
 

dpodblood

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I was a fan of the original Crysis, and I'm looking forward to playing this too. I will probably wait for the price to drop to $30 though, and hopefully a DX11 patch even if the difference isn't that large.
 

TheVrolok

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I'll be picking it up when it's quite a bit cheaper .. I also have some fears about how it'll look on my system which is getting somewhat dated. (Q6600 @ 3.0, GTX 285 SC)
 
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TechBoyJK

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I'll be picking it up when it's quite a bit cheaper .. I also have some fears about how it'll look on my system which is getting somewhat dated. (Q6600 @ 3.0, GTX 285 SC)

You'd be fine I think.

There are three graphics settings besides resolution. High, Very High, and Extreme.

I have an AMD PhenomII quad core at 3.6ghz with 4GB of ram and an ATI 4870 1GB, and my machine plays the game buttery smooth on high, about 35-40fps on very high, and mid 20's on extreme.
 

TheVrolok

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You'd be fine I think.

There are three graphics settings besides resolution. High, Very High, and Extreme.

I have an AMD PhenomII quad core at 3.6ghz with 4GB of ram and an ATI 4870 1GB, and my machine plays the game buttery smooth on high, about 35-40fps on very high, and mid 20's on extreme.

Yeah, it sounds like the "consolized" graphics of the PC version aren't going to be nearly as stressing as Crysis 1 was.. which, ironically, is what I built this PC for originally (though I think I had an 8800GT in it back then).
 

EvilComputer92

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You'd be fine I think.

There are three graphics settings besides resolution. High, Very High, and Extreme.

I have an AMD PhenomII quad core at 3.6ghz with 4GB of ram and an ATI 4870 1GB, and my machine plays the game buttery smooth on high, about 35-40fps on very high, and mid 20's on extreme.

You know what the most outrageous thing is? They locked the graphics variables. It's one thing to not include graphics settings, but someone at Crytek went out of their way to dileberately lock down ALL the graphics cvar variables that were in the demo in beta. They also locked all the pak files with encryption because they wanted everyone to play their console port garbage the way it was meant to be played.

That's right, The leaked beta had more graphics options, included Sandbox 3 editor, had a 64bit executable but Crytek removed all of it for the retail version. Looks like the beta is better than the full game.
 

TheVrolok

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You know what the most outrageous thing is? They locked the graphics variables. It's one thing to not include graphics settings, but someone at Crytek went out of their way to dileberately lock down ALL the graphics cvar variables that were in the demo in beta. They also locked all the pak files with encryption because they wanted everyone to play their console port garbage the way it was meant to be played.

That's right, The leaked beta had more graphics options, included Sandbox 3 editor, had a 64bit executable but Crytek removed all of it for the retail version. Looks like the beta is better than the full game.

Just how consolized are the graphics really? Should I just rent it for my PS3? The graphics still have to be quite a bit better on the PC version?
 

TechBoyJK

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Yeah, it sounds like the "consolized" graphics of the PC version aren't going to be nearly as stressing as Crysis 1 was.. which, ironically, is what I built this PC for originally (though I think I had an 8800GT in it back then).

I think what they did was compress as many textures as they could to reduce memory usage so that the extra resources could be applied to lighting, etc. Because the lighting in Crysis 2 is really awesome. I think the downside to that is the increased lighting relative to the overall decreased resolution of many textures creates a valley, and that's where the graphics are confusing people. That, along with the engine being more efficient is making it much easier for systems to run.
 

greenhawk

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your own damn fault considering that Crytek spent the last year telling everyone that Crysis 2 would run better than Crysis 1 on the same hardware.

They also spent that time saying the new gaming engine would support DX11 and the result of their hard work would shock you.

Add that to their previous games of note, espically one with the same name, pushed hardware when set to high/extream settings.

So sorry that 2+2 does not equal the expected 4 with the information that has been given for the last 12 months.