That is, to have your whole body, or just a head, frozen so that you might be brought back to life when medical adavances make this possible?
Cryogenics....would you do it?
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That is, to have your whole body, or just a head, frozen so that you might be brought back to life when medical adavances make this possible?
AreaCode707
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<< only if i could be assured, that when i was unfrozen, AT would still be up and running and my account would still be active >>
OH YEA!!!!
pyonir
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<< hmmm...maybe if i was dying yeah
>>you are dying. every second you live, is a second closer to your death. everyone is dying.
as for me, i wouldn't. i'm going to be cremated when i die from whatever it is i die from. i don't want to be "kept" on the off chance it could happen.
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happyface Well it's not "bringing somebody back to life" that is really the hardest thing to come to terms with. It's that when a person is frozen their cells all get damaged from the freezing process.
Scientists can freeze a frog into a block of ice and bring it back to life after a while because it has a special thing in its body that allows this but humans don't have it, so all humans that are currently frozen have gross cell damage throughout the entire body. Even with advanced science and thawing them they could not come back to life and be viable.
Of course since nobody can tell the future it's possible that VERY advanced science could find a way to regenerate each cell in the body (probably with nano-bots or something), but who really knows. Definitely for the forseeable future bringing these hunks of ice back to life isn't going to happen.
Scientists can freeze a frog into a block of ice and bring it back to life after a while because it has a special thing in its body that allows this but humans don't have it, so all humans that are currently frozen have gross cell damage throughout the entire body. Even with advanced science and thawing them they could not come back to life and be viable.
Of course since nobody can tell the future it's possible that VERY advanced science could find a way to regenerate each cell in the body (probably with nano-bots or something), but who really knows. Definitely for the forseeable future bringing these hunks of ice back to life isn't going to happen.
<< No, life's fascinating enough in the here and now.
>>I agree. The experiences I obtain now are I'm sure just as rewarding and exciting as those I would have in the future. That and it'd be a bitch to wake up one day and have no clue what was going on.
i'll prolly do it if i can afford it & will have plenty left over in my estate for the kids, etc. there are gonna be some incredibly neat things developed in our lifetime, but i still get frustrated know that there are things i'm unlikely to ever see. or truths about life & the universe that won't be known in my lifetime. those are the things i'd "die" just to see/know.
but really, i won't expect to wake up in the future. a.) it's awfully unlikely that you'll be revivable; ice crystal formation is devastating to brain cells, which are pretty much the main thing you'd want to be salvagable, if you're hoping to wake up & still be yourself... if they have to technology to revive you, then they'll certainly be able to build you a new body. nano-technology is the theoretical hope for repairing the damaged brain cells, but it's still a long shot when it comes to perfectly reconstructing a brain, which, unlike muscles tissue, would need to be absolutely perfectly re-engineered in order to revive the same psyche that was frozen so long before. and nevermind the whole issue of the human "soul". who knows? maybe they will in the future & that's something i'd sure like to see.
b.) the company that you pay to freeze & preserve your body.... what makes you think that it'll be around in a couple hundred years? what if cryogenics become unpopular & the company goes bankrupt? those are details that the companies, in their sales pitches, must account for, but i've never heard their points. does the fee you pay just cover the freezing process, or also the "thawing" process, too? anyway, those kind of considerations come to mind pretty quickly to me. though i suspect that these companies are exploiting human nature's susceptability to hope & "miracle-cure" processes, i'd prolly still give it a shot for the obvious reason that there's nothing much to lose.
but really, i won't expect to wake up in the future. a.) it's awfully unlikely that you'll be revivable; ice crystal formation is devastating to brain cells, which are pretty much the main thing you'd want to be salvagable, if you're hoping to wake up & still be yourself... if they have to technology to revive you, then they'll certainly be able to build you a new body. nano-technology is the theoretical hope for repairing the damaged brain cells, but it's still a long shot when it comes to perfectly reconstructing a brain, which, unlike muscles tissue, would need to be absolutely perfectly re-engineered in order to revive the same psyche that was frozen so long before. and nevermind the whole issue of the human "soul". who knows? maybe they will in the future & that's something i'd sure like to see.
b.) the company that you pay to freeze & preserve your body.... what makes you think that it'll be around in a couple hundred years? what if cryogenics become unpopular & the company goes bankrupt? those are details that the companies, in their sales pitches, must account for, but i've never heard their points. does the fee you pay just cover the freezing process, or also the "thawing" process, too? anyway, those kind of considerations come to mind pretty quickly to me. though i suspect that these companies are exploiting human nature's susceptability to hope & "miracle-cure" processes, i'd prolly still give it a shot for the obvious reason that there's nothing much to lose.
i would absolutly do it."whole body"
and Skoorb they do things a little different now.
there is a forumula or juse or what ever you want to call it that they enject into all the bodies now and have for 10 years.
there curently 2 facilitys in the us that do this and several world wide.
this stuff they put into bodys(as far as i know no living person has ever done this. nor has any alive person ever been frozen before the point of death.)
anyway this stuff has shown that when pumped through a body it stops cell rupture.
they have brought back fish. frogs, lizards,worms and several other living organiziams back from cryo frezee.
no nothing like or even close to a chimp (YET) but they will.
as for the people that have been frozen as just a head(well what a waist of money)
a hole body im sure that sometime in the future they will do so.
just my opinion.
and Skoorb they do things a little different now.
there is a forumula or juse or what ever you want to call it that they enject into all the bodies now and have for 10 years.
there curently 2 facilitys in the us that do this and several world wide.
this stuff they put into bodys(as far as i know no living person has ever done this. nor has any alive person ever been frozen before the point of death.)
anyway this stuff has shown that when pumped through a body it stops cell rupture.
they have brought back fish. frogs, lizards,worms and several other living organiziams back from cryo frezee.
no nothing like or even close to a chimp (YET) but they will.
as for the people that have been frozen as just a head(well what a waist of money)
a hole body im sure that sometime in the future they will do so.
just my opinion.
eplebnista
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If I was old & dying and it was free. I would hate to pay for something that hasn't been proven yet.
<< No, life's fascinating enough in the here and now. >>
I agree. The experiences I obtain now are I'm sure just as rewarding and exciting as those I would have in the future. That and it'd be a bitch to wake up one day and have no clue what was going on.
isn't that a sorta arguement against spending much time with religion too?
I agree. The experiences I obtain now are I'm sure just as rewarding and exciting as those I would have in the future. That and it'd be a bitch to wake up one day and have no clue what was going on.
isn't that a sorta arguement against spending much time with religion too?
If I would die anyway, yes, most certainly I would do it.
I disagree that the experiences of one life-time are enough. Existance is intoxicating: one just can not get enough of it.
Besides, what's the point of dying?
I disagree that the experiences of one life-time are enough. Existance is intoxicating: one just can not get enough of it.
Besides, what's the point of dying?
I would definitely do it. In fact, if nothing else is available by the end of my life, i will do it. Not much to lose at that point.
You have to be already dead, and dead for a long time due to transportation issues, to do this procedure so it's pretty much meaningless. What you want is to freeze yourself while still alive. Unfortunately, you cannot do this in the USA since that would be considered murder, or at least anyone who assisted you could be charged with assisted suicide murder.
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