Cry, dear America, Weep Beautiful America. You have nothing to mourn, but your own...

[Meghan54]

We weren't really trying in that war, lxskllr, as you most certainly know. It was another political war being fought not to win.

 

[Braznor]

So OP, what's India's problem?

http://www.economist.com/node/18332796

I'm sorry, Boomer. But India is a failed state in terms of providing justice to its own people.

America did that admirably well on this front until recently. Too bad, your elites and politicians sold you out for just a dime in short term gains.

You should also blame some of your populace for unfailingly demanding their so called entitled pound of flesh from the beautiful body of your mother America and I really meant those words.

That's what happened to us too.

 

[lxskllr]

We weren't really trying in that war, lxskllr, as you most certainly know. It was another political war being fought not to win.

A win was still debatable, and China's only gotten more sophisticated since then. If we got in a war with China, I think we'd be solidly spanked.

 

[SpongeBob]

A win was still debatable, and China's only gotten more sophisticated since then. If we got in a war with China, I think we'd be solidly spanked.

You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...

 

[schneiderguy]

A win was still debatable, and China's only gotten more sophisticated since then. If we got in a war with China, I think we'd be solidly spanked.

lolno

 

[Farmer]

lolno

lolol

 

[lxskllr]

lolno

Way oversized pic fuckin' clipped

Yea, it's all fun and games until the body bags start flying home. You think Iraq's been a problem? Afghanistan?? They're a shoplifting interdiction in comparison to landing in China.

 

[Farmer]

Yea, it's all fun and games until the body bags start flying home. You think Iraq's been a problem? Afghanistan?? They're a shoplifting interdiction in comparison to landing in China.

lolno

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yea, it's all fun and games until the body bags start flying home. You think Iraq's been a problem? Afghanistan?? They're a shoplifting interdiction in comparison to landing in China.

You can't compare Iraq and Afghanistan with a war that would be fought on our own soil over the Pacific Ocean where we would have both sea and air superiority. Outside of nuclear warfare (which I don't even know if China has the capability to reach US soil), China would not stand much of a chance.

 

[schneiderguy]

Yea, it's all fun and games until the body bags start flying home. You think Iraq's been a problem? Afghanistan?? They're a shoplifting interdiction in comparison to landing in China.

We're barely even trying in the Middle East. If we nuked the entire region we could have the war won in one day. And fighting against an insurgency is different than fighting against an army. Look at what happened to Iraq's army when we invaded, we kicked their ass.

 

[lxskllr]

We're barely even trying in the Middle East. If we nuked the entire region we could have the war won in one day. And fighting against an insurgency is different than fighting against an army. Look at what happened to Iraq's army when we invaded, we kicked their ass.

China's youth corp is probably bigger than Iraq's whole army was :^D Also, you really think sending nukes to a country that has ICBMs is a good idea? Seriously!?

 

[schneiderguy]

China's youth corp is probably bigger than Iraq's whole army was :^D Also, you really think sending nukes to a country that has ICBMs is a good idea? Seriously!?

Our kill:death ratio was 66:1 in the invasion of Iraq. Doesn't matter how big their army is if they aren't well trained or motivated.

 

[BoomerD]

As much as the American War Pig in my wants to believe we could whip China in an all-out war, common sense says no.
They outnumber us by about 4:1 in raw population numbers...

BUT, we have the most advanced military in the world; the best tanks, the best aircraft carriers and fighters/bombers, the best equipped navy, and the best trained military forces...but again, the Chinese have us in sheer numbers...by about 1 billion in population.
I know their military forces are FAR less than that, although probably still considerably more than the US forces...perhaps by as much as 30%.

Hell, a small nation like Japan gave us trouble some 70 years ago...we finally beat them, but at a great cost to both nations.

If the war turned nuclear, I don't think anyone would win...except maybe the cockroaches.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/

 

[preslove]

China is sitting on a really big real estate bubble. There's going to be a pop relatively soon.

 

[mmntech]

I'd say China's biggest threat is China right now. The Arab Spring has already got people there a bit agitated. Large command economies aren't sustainable in the long run. If the economy goes down, so will the Party. It's not a matter of if, but when.

 

[BudAshes]

America, fuck yeah.

 

[lxskllr]

Hell, a small nation like Japan gave us trouble some 70 years ago...we finally beat them, but at a great cost to both nations.

I think they'd be /almost/ as committed as the Japanese were too. It's hard to duplicate that kind of fanaticism, but I bet the Chinese would come close.

 

[HAL9000]

I'd still rather live in the US rather than China no matter how rich China becomes (unless theres some massive change in Chinese society).

This.

 

[Doppel]

We weren't really trying in that war, lxskllr, as you most certainly know. It was another political war being fought not to win.

What's Afghanistan, then?

A win was still debatable, and China's only gotten more sophisticated since then. If we got in a war with China, I think we'd be solidly spanked.

lawls. Nimitz-class > *

USS Nimitz (CVN-68)
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69)
USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)
USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71)
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72)
USS George Washington (CVN-73)
USS John C. Stennis (CVN-74)
USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75)
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76)
USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77)

 

[JD50]

ummm....no.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I don't which picture I like better, the avatar of the poster of this or this pic, lol

 

[IndyColtsFan]

As much as the American War Pig in my wants to believe we could whip China in an all-out war, common sense says no.
They outnumber us by about 4:1 in raw population numbers...

In a conventional war, the US would soundly beat them as long as politicians didn't interfere. The USAF and Navy would establish air superiority in a matter of days and after that, any ground forces would be pulverized. I'm not advocating a war or an invasion, either.

Also, to the other posters -- you can't use the Korean War as an accurate barometer of the US vs. China. The military was prevented from not only bombing positions and bases in China, but even bombing the Chinese side of the Yalu. Had those restrictions not been in place, North Korea may not exist today. Truman and his advisors DID have good reasons for not bombing into China; at the time, the fear was that if the US did that, the conflict would escalate and keep the US occupied and would risk leaving Western Europe open for an easy Soviet invasion.

 

[BoomerD]

In a conventional war, the US would soundly beat them as long as politicians didn't interfere. The USAF and Navy would establish air superiority in a matter of days and after that, any ground forces would be pulverized. I'm not advocating a war or an invasion, either.

Also, to the other posters -- you can't use the Korean War as an accurate barometer of the US vs. China. The military was prevented from not only bombing positions and bases in China, but even bombing the Chinese side of the Yalu. Had those restrictions not been in place, North Korea may not exist today. Truman and his advisors DID have good reasons for not bombing into China; at the time, the fear was that if the US did that, the conflict would escalate and keep the US occupied and would risk leaving Western Europe open for an easy Soviet invasion.

I think it would depend a lot on whether we were defending our homeland...or attacking theirs.

I think we'd do a pretty good job if they were trying to invade the USA, but if we were trying to invade China...that's a LONG way from home...and maintaining a good supply line would be difficult at best.
(besides, if we go to war with China...where will we get the money?)

 

[Karl Agathon]

U.S. nuclear triad FTW!

 

[Zorkorist]

It's not a war, per se. It's what China has that we do not.

China today has a spirit of industrialism, capitalism, that we seem to have forgotten.

Every news story in the U.S> is about Government. How they have squashed some industry, or advanced ridiculous industries like solar power.

In China, (I imagine), stories are about how XYZ company sold a boat-load of shit to the U.S.

-John