CRT is way too bright??!

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: washburn
Aja27, do you think this too bright problem is because of a defective monitor? maybe thats why they called the monitor 997MB (MagicBright) because CRTs are known to be dark and tend to lose brightness over period of time, so they designed this monitor for strong brightness...

are you going to try and go through a bunch of 997MB's to find one with a perfect black? you're a noob

Um, and what about the guy with the 793DF(DynaFlat) who had the same issues and whose monitor doesn't have MagicBright?

Besides, that probably has absolutely nothing to do with it and it's no excuse. I'm pretty sure there are Mitsu Diamondtrons (AG-even brighter) with SuperBright which can still produce a black black. Besides that, I'm also pretty sure those technologies (MagicBright, SuperBright, UltraBrite, et al.) only increase contrast, not black level, and were never meant to compensate for life expectancy (only to increase contrast in demanding apps) anyway.

 

[PoopyPants]

i have a Viewsonic G810 tha has the same thing and it annoys the hell out of me.
mine is 24/7 though, i even opened it up and adjusted the brightness and it still has the grey washed out look even on the desktop. its really annoying.
i cant get it to go away.

any ideas.

i can drop the video card control panel gamma to like 50% and that helps but its still there slightly.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: PoopyPants
i can drop the video card control panel gamma to like 50% and that helps but its still there slightly.

If so it's not a problem with your monitor. Try some rudimentary calibration tools like this:

Dry Creek Photo - Monitor Black Point check

 

[BWX]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: PoopyPants
i can drop the video card control panel gamma to like 50% and that helps but its still there slightly.

If so it's not a problem with your monitor. Try some rudimentary calibration tools like this:

Dry Creek Photo - Monitor Black Point check

That is cool.. I can see step 4 on my KDS.. 1 to 3 are just black.. Not too bad I guess for a cheap monitor. Of course I need to turn the brightness up more than is comfortable to see it.. if I have brightness set to what I normally use, I start seeing the steps at 5.

I'll definitely be checking that out on the 997mb when it arrives.

 

[xtknight]

To me it sounded like you haven't messed with any settings yet (well you didn't mention changing contrast). You are almost all the time going to need to calibrate your monitor to see it (usually just contrast/brightness/gamma). It isn't going to be right right off, even if you're looking at a $5000 Diamondtron, unless it was factory calibrated. If I vaguely remember, my KDS 17" CRT (shadow mask) could do pretty good, like to step 2-3 being discernable. Now I have a 6-bit TN LCD, and those gray levels are a mess. 1-15 are black without changing any settings, LOL.

I recommend you leave brightness and contrast alone at 100% in your display adapter properties, because if you change those you will lose dynamic range.

 

[Aja27]

So, BWX, has it arrived yet?

 

[BWX]

Yeah- it didn't work!! Arghghgg... :|

NewEgg RMA's it for me though. I explained the situation with me having to wait for the service center so they took it back. They even refunded the money it took to ship it back and are going to next day air the new one to me when they get it. Actually with the credits they gave me it will cost me 10 dollars LESS than it would have if the thing worked.. so I guess they hooked me up. I imagine the one I got had a bumpy ride or something- I used to work at UPS, I know what goes on there.


I would turn it on and nothing would come up on the screen.. not even the no signal screen. It would just keep clicking and sounded like it was clicking off- then on.. indefinitely... and nothing else would happen.

The monitor looks really nice though (the case and whatnot). I should have the new one by next Wed. or so. I am going out of town for Thanksgiving holiday and won't be back till Monday anyway.. I'll let you know what happens... I have my computer in a pretty dark room, so I will be able to notice if it has the same problem as yours.

 

[Aja27]

Yikes. Apparently they used to be made in China, and the QC was higher there. Mine of course, isn't - it was made in Tijuana.

 

[BWX]

I should get my new one tomorrow or the next day... will report back.

 

[Aja27]

I'm still here - looking forward to your reply.

I haven't taken mine in yet... it's a big hassle to go without a computer for a week, or however long it'll take... Time is on my side though, especially with a three-year warranty. And if worst comes to worst, I wouldn't feel bad at all about keeping the monitor as-is. For everything but Thief, it's wonderful.

 

[BWX]

Well I got it a couple days ago... I did notice what you were saying about the blacks being bright on default settings..

After I adjusted the contrast to 100 and the brightness to 0 it went away completely. I can even take the brightness up to about 10 or so without noticing that the black backgrounds are brighter than the space where no video is being shown (like when you shrink the picture and compare the blacks.



I have other problems, this thing STINKS like burnt plastic when it warms up, and after three days it has not gotten any better. I thought after a couple days it would go away, but it hasn't.

The entire right hand side of the screen is darker as well.. not by much, buy noticeable.

Also the drivers are messed up, when choosing "hide modes this monitor cannot display" in the monitor tab in the display properties where you choose the refresh rates, it only goes to 70 hz at 1600 x 1200 even though the monitor can go to 76hz..

Now games only let me go to 70hz@ 1600 x 1200 without over riding the game in a config file if that is even possible..

That is BS, I bought the thing because 1600 x 1200 @ 75hz was possible. There are other issues like screen distortion on the bottom left that cannot be tuned out.

Magic bright will not stay on after a resolution change.

The monitor will not store the geometry of all the resolutions and refresh rates, meaning if you go through all the refresh rates and resolutions and fix the geometry, if you go back and choose one of the refresh rate and resolutions, it will be stuck back to default..

I really like a lot of things about this monitor, but there are a lot of problems, some due to quality control no doubt, but some due to crappy design I am sure.

I might send the dumb thing back, especially if it continues to stink up my entire apartment with the smell of burnt plastic.. I think that is normal to a point, but not to the extent this monitor does it.

 

[Customizer]

Yo, im new here so lets start where i came for.

I got another question but it has to with adjusting etc..
I have like a week now a new monitor, the SamSung SyncMaster 997MB.
But the problem still is to adjust the screen, like when u buy a new monitor the picture is like not vertical and horizantal etc. The ppl who have this monitor know where im talking about. And im getting pretty annoyed about this manual adjusting system, cuz if i look good the left side of my picture is not very straight. So what is my question: Does this thing have an automaticly adjusting system? or is there any program for it to do or what ever it will do.
So if someone knows this or have the same problem doing it, tell me

Thx, and later

 

[BWX]

It just takes a while to get it right.. You need to play with almost ALL the geometry controls to get it acceptable, at least I had to. I am sure they are all different.

 

[Customizer]

Isnt there something for automaticly adjusting or something.
@ BWX, Do you got the sycmaster 997MB? if u do what is you resolution?

 

[JRW]

The smell of burnt plastic is not normal even for a brand new monitor, I remember my 21" Sony had a smell for the first day but it wasnt of the burnt type heh ,All of the other symptoms you speak of sound like very bad quality control , I would send it back. I know I wouldnt be happy with those defects being present.

 

[BWX]

Originally posted by: JRW
The smell of burnt plastic is not normal even for a brand new monitor, I remember my 21" Sony had a smell for the first day but it wasnt of the burnt type heh ,All of the other symptoms you speak of sound like very bad quality control , I would send it back. I know I wouldnt be happy with those defects being present.

I just wonder if ANY of these monitors will be right.. but yeah I think I might send it back- - if the smell goes away that's fine, but the color variance between the right and left side is unacceptable.

Originally posted by: Customizer
Isnt there something for automaticly adjusting or something.
@ BWX, Do you got the sycmaster 997MB? if u do what is you resolution?

No auto-adjustment that I can see..

EDIT- yes I do have the 997MB

 

[Customizer]

Is your screen adjustment good now? and straigh. Mine is on 1152 x 864.
On what is your geometry? the rotation etc in the OSD menu of your screen.

 

[JRW]

Originally posted by: BWX

Originally posted by: JRW
The smell of burnt plastic is not normal even for a brand new monitor, I remember my 21" Sony had a smell for the first day but it wasnt of the burnt type heh ,All of the other symptoms you speak of sound like very bad quality control , I would send it back. I know I wouldnt be happy with those defects being present.

I just wonder if ANY of these monitors will be right.. but yeah I think I might send it back- - if the smell goes away that's fine, but the color variance between the right and left side is unacceptable.

Originally posted by: Customizer
Isnt there something for automaticly adjusting or something.
@ BWX, Do you got the sycmaster 997MB? if u do what is you resolution?

No auto-adjustment that I can see..

EDIT- yes I do have the 997MB

I meant return it and either get a refund or try another brand & model altogether... I would at this point.

 

[Aja27]

Mine will do 74hz at 1600x1200, though I have to uncheck the saftey in windows' display (and set it at 75). I don't have any of the other problems you mentioned. No smell, and the memory works well - it even saves individual settings for different resolutions.

No uneven brightness either. The fact that you say yours can get dark enough is making think I should probably bring it in anyway for repairs. Sorry to hear about all of your problems!

 

[washburn]

Aja27, did you used to use a LCD monitor b4 the CRT? Did you get a CRT for the deep black? just wondering..

 

[Aja27]

Yes, though I only had the LCD for about a week. The blacks on this CRT are still better than LCD, just not as good as I'd hoped.