CrowdPac Raises $1M+ for Collins Competitor IF She Votes to Confirm Kavanaugh

Paratus

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And the GOP is shocked, SHOCKED at this abuse of Citizens United for non-billionaires to try and bribe representatives with their dirty money raised from the peons.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ires-try-to-influence-her-kavanaugh-vote.html

On Monday, Sen. Susan Collins accused political opponents of Judge Brett Kavanaugh of attempted “bribery.” The charge itself is without any legal merit whatsoever. That complaints about the campaign finance effort came from Collins, Republican election lawyer Cleta Mitchell, and an aide to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell make the episode almost too rich to be believed. Their cries of bribery, illegality, and lack of principle lay bare the bankrupt campaign finance system that Mitchell and McConnell helped create and that Collins has contributed to with previous Supreme Court votes and will supersize with her likely vote to confirm Kavanaugh.

Collins labeled as a “bribe” a fundraising plan by two progressive Maine groups, aided by the company Crowdpac, to raise funds for Collins’ eventual opponent in 2020. People are pledging to give money via Crowdpac to that unknown future opponent, but donors will only be charged for the donation if Collins votes “yes” on Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court. As of Tuesday night, the groups reported pledged donations of more than $1 million, with a $1.3 million goal. There were more than 39,000 individual pledges ranging from $1 to the maximum allowable donation to a candidate of $2,700.

Now we can argue about whether the political threat to Collins funded by tens of thousands of small donations should be illegal. But claims by Mitchell and others that the fundraising effort is illegal are wrong, in part thanks to the deregulated campaign finance system that Mitchell and others have helped to create through litigation and a sympathetic Supreme Court.

...Perhaps the chutzpah award, though, should go to Sen. McConnell’s deputy chief of staff Don Stewart, who urged “every Maine Democrat … to refuse to accept this tainted funding” as the “principled” thing to do.

...And the behavior of the two Maine progressive groups is not unusual, except for the fact that it is funded by small donors. This is demonstrated easily by looking at the behavior of those shouting bribery the loudest. As Adam Smith noted, although Sen. John Cornyn boosted Collins’ bribery complaints, back in January he was urging the Koch brothers to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to reward the Republican Party for tax cuts benefiting wealthy donors. This came after big donors threatened to withholdmoney until Republicans got that tax bill passed. That’s closer to Mitchell’s claims of “bribery” than what the Maine groups are doing. Indeed, a 2014 report by Ohio State University law professor Dan Tokaji and then-fellow Renata Strause found that threats by super PACs to spend against incumbents if they don’t vote the way the super PAC donors want is an everyday Washington occurrence.*
 

kage69

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Better yet Don, how about we have Trump appointed judges step down voluntarily as the principled thing to do. Our justice system shouldn't be tainted by un-indicted co-conspirators/Russian assets after all.

This kind of sloppy, ridiculous reaction isn't what I was expecting from Collins. How disappointing. I'd say by her buying into the turtle fiction she's probably going to vote to confirm. I hope I'm wrong. I suspect my letter to her was for naught.

Someone has her convinced Roe v Wade is off the list, but republicans don't need to kill Roe v Wade in order to exert their control over women in need of punishment. If Kavanaugh gets on the USSC expect an almost immediate reaction by certain red states to make abortions near impossible to obtain. For starters.

If only we could make the churches pay for all the additional call centers needed to handle the coming surge in single pregnant women needing help inducing at-home miscarriages on the cheap.
 
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pcgeek11

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She should vote to confirm if for no other reason than making the dip shits pay their pledges.

They have more or less boxed Collins in. If she votes against confirmation she will be shown as being beaten into it by the left.

This leaves her the only option of confirming the nomination and making a show of it that democrats attempted to influence her vote with money.
 

Bitek

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She should vote to confirm if for no other reason than making the dip shits pay their pledges.

They have more or less boxed Collins in. If she votes against confirmation she will be shown as being beaten into it by the left.

This leaves her the only option of confirming the nomination and making a show of it that democrats attempted to influence her vote with money.

Oh no, 20 bucks! How will we ever retire?!

If she votes no, nobody spent anything. Genius
 

Jhhnn

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If Collins is pro-choice, now is the time to stand up for that.

It's interesting how she calls the super pac bribery. It's not that. She gets bribery from the Koch network & other wealthy right wing donors for voting their way. Well, with the unspoken extortional threat of being primaried by the Teahad if she doesn't, of course.

The super pac is just straight up in yo' face extortion. I kinda like it. I mean, it's the GOP's game, isn't it? There were bound to be unintended consequences.
 
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She should vote to confirm if for no other reason than making the dip shits pay their pledges.

They have more or less boxed Collins in. If she votes against confirmation she will be shown as being beaten into it by the left.

This leaves her the only option of confirming the nomination and making a show of it that democrats attempted to influence her vote with money.

Government through spite. That's a wonderful concept there angry man baby.
 

Paratus

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You know I think Roe being overturned will end up being an ‘Obi Wan Effect’. Strike it down and it will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Once several hundred more pregnant women are dying from botched abortions each year adding to our already dismal maternal death rates due to a SCOTUS ruling that had a seat stolen by a judge who allegedly perjured himself and allegedly under investigation for sexual acts appointed by a historically unpopular president who the majority rejected and I think you’ll see democrats at the state and local level being elected in droves to overturn these draconian antiabortion laws.

Republicans will lose most of there reps which will ironically save the party as they will have to purge the crazies if they want a chance to win again.

And quite frankly this country needs two non-crazy parties.
 

UNCjigga

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This is an outrageous action by CrowdPAC and progressives! Democrats should be ashamed! Next thing you know, they'll be asking Dems to sign a pledge supporting Medicare for all, or else anyone not signing said pledge will have their funding cut off. I mean, what kind of people stoop to that level????

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Makes one wonder.... just how awful WILL Kavanaugh be?
How awful can Kavanaugh be?
Obviously, pretty damn awful if congressional republicans are willing to let Donald Trump shoot people dead on 5th avenue and get away with it.
And if the so called religious moral majority (who elected Nixon) are willing to sell their very soul to the devil in support of Donald Trump.
Pretty damn awful if so many Americans are willing to tolerate a rebirth of Nazism, rebirth of the KKK, and to tolerate imprisonment of 4 year old immigrant children on American soil.
Yep!
Kavanaugh must be some pretty damn awful SOB.

I think it's time we re-think this entire US Supreme Court thing.
Obviously, the process has been corrupted.
When democrats regain control of congress, they absolutely must rewrite entirely the process of how we choose justices, AND they must impost term limits on those Supreme Court justices. Every single justice, and make the new law retroactive.
Say.... a term of no longer than 8 years. Maybe even 6.
But remove forever this "FOR LIFE" bull crappy.
Life may have worked once before, but the deviates in politics have now discovered how to take advantage of the system. To morally corrupt the process.

The process has been tainted, abused, corrupted, and gerrymandered, as it were.
NO MORE should US Supreme Court justices tout such power.
This has corrupted our entire democracy from how we elect presidents to enabling the likes of an actual presidential dictatorship.
Lawmakers are no longer accountable to THE PEOPLE.
Instead, they are operatives of special interest.
And of a system having such power, that such power has become a threat to democracy itself.

Yes... democrats MUST change the US Supreme Court process, and bring it down to earth instead of allowing the process to become some man made all mighty god.
Imagine if all mighty god himself were so vulnerable to being corrupted.
Imagine if Donald Trump could pay off god to grow beautify green lavish lawns upon Donald Trump's golf courses, while drying into a desert the lawns of every person that Trump opposed.
Well.... we now have a god-like US Supreme Court that is obviously vulnerable to corruption.
Republicans in congress made their own new rules to block Obama from exercising his constitutional right for consideration of a high court justice, then now we have republicans breaking every rule again to get their justices installed on the bench.
The system MUST BE CHANGED!
 

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You know I think Roe being overturned will end up being an ‘Obi Wan Effect’. Strike it down and it will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Once several hundred more pregnant women are dying from botched abortions each year adding to our already dismal maternal death rates due to a SCOTUS ruling that had a seat stolen by a judge who allegedly perjured himself and allegedly under investigation for sexual acts appointed by a historically unpopular president who the majority rejected and I think you’ll see democrats at the state and local level being elected in droves to overturn these draconian antiabortion laws.

Republicans will lose most of there reps which will ironically save the party as they will have to purge the crazies if they want a chance to win again.

And quite frankly this country needs two non-crazy parties.
Fuck the coat hangers, what will it mean, in a democracy, when the majority of the voting populace (women) has less inherit rights than than a minority? Some people, albeit incredibly well-intentioned, just don't get it.
 

Jhhnn

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Fuck the coat hangers, what will it mean, in a democracy, when the majority of the voting populace (women) has less inherit rights than than a minority? Some people, albeit incredibly well-intentioned, just don't get it.

There are other aspects of it they can't see, as well. It's extremely classist, given that wealthy women can afford to go out of state or out of country while working class women obviously can't.
 
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Vic

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There are other aspects of it they can't see, as well. It's extremely classist, given that wealthy women can afford to go out of state or out of country while working class women obviously can't.
They see that one clear as day. It's how they get the votes.
 
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They also sent Senator Collins a 3 foot cardboard cutout of male genitalia. That's going to earn them a vote. What class.

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Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch’s office weighed in on the cutout via Twitter Thursday evening.

“The left’s campaign to pressure Senator Collins has gone from threats of sexual violence against young staffers to actual sexual harassment,” the tweet said. “This is abhorrent behavior and (again) deserves to be roundly condemned from the right and left.”

Collins’ spokeswoman has also denounced as extortion a fundraising campaign for a Collins challenger should the Maine senator vote to confirm Kavanaugh. The crowdfunding effort has already raised $1 million, reported WaPo.


https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/13/susan-collins-kavanaugh-obscene/