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[FelixDeCat]

I’m just wondering one thing about your “financial analysis” you made, vis a vis your 8% healthcare tax and all …where in your accounting does all the health insurance premiums employers have been paying go? Vanish into thin air? Seems that’s what most do who spout the drivel like you posted.

Cry about taxes going up while ignoring the thousands of dollars per year going into your pocket…from all those ins premiums that were paid for you (employer funded) and by you (your own premiums, not to mention No deductibles, co-pays, etc.)

And I say thousands because the average yearly single person’s health insurance premium was $7900 while a family’s ins premiums were over $22,000. That’s 2022 info. Below is an interactive graph display of ins premiums (private thru work…US typical) from 1999-present for singles and fams.

Premiums and Worker Contributions Among Workers Covered by Employer-Sponsored Coverage, 1999-2023 | KFF

This graphing tool allows users to explore trends in workplace-sponsored health insurance premiums and worker contributions over time for different categories of employers based on results from the annual Employer Health Benefits Survey. Breakouts are available by firm size, region and industry...

www.kff.org

So, I seriously doubt any of those figures and where that money would go. I seriously doubt you’d let your employer just Hoover them up, never to heard of or seen ever again.

Think all that money now spent on premiums might somehow cover the tax increase? Maybe? Bet more than a few (if not every freaking person in the country) would end up doing better financially with single payer.

I was watching a video on how bad things are in the UK with their "free" healthcare. You have to wait a very long time for an appointment, only get 10 mins to consult with a doctor, are only allowed to mention one problem (even if you have many) as that is all the doctor is allowed to treat.

I dont like the expensive mess we have now, but 100% socialized medicine is not the answer.

 

[mikeymikec]

I was watching a video on how bad things are in the UK with their "free" healthcare. You have to wait a very long time for an appointment, only get 10 mins to consult with a doctor, are only allowed to mention one problem (even if you have many) as that is all the doctor is allowed to treat.

I'm from the UK. What's "a very long time", and what kind of appointment are we talking about? It sounds like you're referring to an appointment with a GP. I've always been seen within a week of making the appointment. I've never heard of a ten minute limit, and the last time I saw my GP (within the last couple of months), I brought up three unrelated points.

There are delays in getting certain kinds of appointments. A&E can take several hours to get properly seen by a doctor (obviously depending on severity), but largely the reason for these delays are conservatives attempting to garotte the NHS's funding so they can sell it off cheaply to their friends.

 

[fskimospy]

I was watching a video on how bad things are in the UK with their "free" healthcare. You have to wait a very long time for an appointment, only get 10 mins to consult with a doctor, are only allowed to mention one problem (even if you have many) as that is all the doctor is allowed to treat.

I dont like the expensive mess we have now, but 100% socialized medicine is not the answer.

They spend 11% of GDP on health care while we spend 18%.

Also I’m not sure where you got the idea that you can only mention one problem per appointment but that sure sounds like made up bullshit to me.

 

[IronWing]

I was watching a video on how bad things are in the UK with their "free" healthcare. You have to wait a very long time for an appointment, only get 10 mins to consult with a doctor, are only allowed to mention one problem (even if you have many) as that is all the doctor is allowed to treat.

You literally described American healthcare except that ours costs a lot more.

 

[IronWing]

They spend 11% of GDP on health care while we spend 18%.

Also I’m not sure where you got the idea that you can only mention one problem per appointment but that sure sounds like made up bullshit to me.

My wife has encountered this with American healthcare. Can't have an appointment taking too long as billing is per appointment.

 

[sandorski]

I'm from the UK. What's "a very long time", and what kind of appointment are we talking about? It sounds like you're referring to an appointment with a GP. I've always been seen within a week of making the appointment. I've never heard of a ten minute limit, and the last time I saw my GP (within the last couple of months), I brought up three unrelated points.

There are delays in getting certain kinds of appointments. A&E can take several hours to get properly seen by a doctor (obviously depending on severity), but largely the reason for these delays are conservatives attempting to garotte the NHS's funding so they can sell it off cheaply to their friends.

The Conservative way everywhere.

 

[fskimospy]

My wife has encountered this with American healthcare. Can't have an appointment taking too long as billing is per appointment.

I have consumed far more health care than the average American in my life and this has never happened to me once.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Discussion - Our healthcare mess thanks to Obamacare

This was an offshoot of another thread, which should be separate: I mentioned that the cost of care is very high under the current regime. I have to pay $3,000 out of pocket before my insurance company pays anything, including doctor visits and medicine. This is thanks to Obamacare, which...

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Ok....I made a new thread just for the healthcare discussion, so I wont be responding here.

 

[IronWing]

I have consumed far more health care than the average American in my life and this has never happened to me once.

How lucky to be you!

 

[BoomerD]

I don't know about you lot...but when I travel, I like to sample the local fare...

 

[HomerJS]

I'm from the UK. What's "a very long time", and what kind of appointment are we talking about? It sounds like you're referring to an appointment with a GP. I've always been seen within a week of making the appointment. I've never heard of a ten minute limit, and the last time I saw my GP (within the last couple of months), I brought up three unrelated points.

There are delays in getting certain kinds of appointments. A&E can take several hours to get properly seen by a doctor (obviously depending on severity), but largely the reason for these delays are conservatives attempting to garotte the NHS's funding so they can sell it off cheaply to their friends.

In case you haven't seen @FelixDeCat his MO is lying and making shit up. Don't be surprised when his claims don't match reality.

 

[HomerJS]

Wanna see real creepy? Donnie openly opined about having sex with this girl. Now let's get out the creepy meter and take two measurements.

 

[WelshBloke]

There are delays in getting certain kinds of appointments. A&E can take several hours to get properly seen by a doctor (obviously depending on severity), but largely the reason for these delays are conservatives attempting to garotte the NHS's funding so they can sell it off cheaply to their friends.

And that we spend way less per person than comparable economies.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Discussion - Our healthcare mess thanks to Obamacare

This was an offshoot of another thread, which should be separate: I mentioned that the cost of care is very high under the current regime. I have to pay $3,000 out of pocket before my insurance company pays anything, including doctor visits and medicine. This is thanks to Obamacare, which...

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Ok....I made a new thread just for the healthcare discussion, so I wont be responding here.

Good Idea.. I don't think you can't handle looking like a complete idiot in more than one thread at a time.

 

[Luna1968]

I have consumed far more health care than the average American in my life and this has never happened to me once.

so you are calling him a liar? typical.

 

[HomerJS]

so you are calling him a liar? typical.

We're calling you a liar. Why?

You lie a lot.

 

[ch33zw1z]

We're calling you a liar. Why?

You lie a lot.

The party of alt-facts is always deeply concerned about your alt-facts.

 

[Pohemi]

so you are calling him a liar? typical.

There's a difference between stating that his experience has not been the same, and calling him a liar.

Not surprising you'd mischaracterize a statement not directed at or involving you at all though. Liar.

 

[hal2kilo]

There's a difference between stating that his experience has not been the same, and calling him a liar.

Not surprising you'd mischaracterize a statement not directed at or involving you at all though. Liar.

Guilty conscience compelled him.