credit card roulette?

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seepy83

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It sorta make sense to play if your meal was the most expensive and pay your own tab when it's the least... That way,over the long run if everything stays averaged(being picked out of the pool), you'll have a positive payout?

Yes, that makes sense...if you're a scumbag who likes to steal money from your friends.
 

darkxshade

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Yes, that makes sense...if you're a scumbag who likes to steal money from your friends.


I've never heard of this until today so I don't know how this really works but how is it stealing? This is by most accounts a gamble... isn't the point of gambling to try to increase your odds of a payout? What's the point to the whole thing if you're playing to be fair? May as well just have everyone pay their own tab.
 

nageov3t

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same WTF is it?
everyone throws their credit cards in a pile.
one card gets randomly chosen and has to pay for the entire bill; everyone else gets to eat for free.

inevitably, it leads to one person getting chosen more than often and getting butthurt like the OP.
 

GotIssues

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I've never heard of this until today so I don't know how this really works but how is it stealing? This is by most accounts a gamble... isn't the point of gambling to try to increase your odds of a payout? What's the point to the whole thing if you're playing to be fair? May as well just have everyone pay their own tab.

Because you are trying to tilt the odds against your friends, not a casino. It's 100% a douchebag thing to do. You play CC roulette for fun, not to make money. Ideally, the goal should be to break even. If you were tilting the odds in your favor among my group of friends, we'd start to "forget" to invite you. It's never cool to try and screw over friends. Never.
 

darkxshade

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Because you are trying to tilt the odds against your friends, not a casino. It's 100% a douchebag thing to do. You play CC roulette for fun, not to make money. Ideally, the goal should be to break even. If you were tilting the odds in your favor among my group of friends, we'd start to "forget" to invite you. It's never cool to try and screw over friends. Never.


I'm not disputing the doucheness of the move but it ain't stealing... cheating maybe.
 

GotIssues

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I'm not disputing the doucheness of the move but it ain't stealing... cheating maybe.

It's stealing in the sense that you are actively trying to get your friends to pay for your meals. It's cheating in the sense that you are manipulating the "game" in your favor. Either way, you wouldn't deserve to have any friends if you treat them like that.
 

BoberFett

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Seems like a stupid "game" as others have said. If the goal is for everything to kind of even out in the end, why not just start that way? If the goal is not to even out, then you aren't out with friends, just a bunch of shitty people trying to get one over on each other.
 

KingGheedora

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No sympathy for you. Why the f would you play if you quit work to go to school? I'm assuming that means you have no income, and your savings are meant to go towards school costs.

If you can't tell your friends you can't play this game, you care too much what they think, and you lack balls.
 

nageov3t

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No sympathy for you. Why the f would you play if you quit work to go to school? I'm assuming that means you have no income, and your savings are meant to go towards school costs.

If you can't tell your friends you can't play this game, you care too much what they think, and you lack balls.
:thumbsup:

friends also sound like d-bags, though.

two of my friends are out of work at the moment... I would never want to make them feel awkward about it, but when a big group of us are out, I'll take the lead in suggesting cheaper restaurants, free activities to do, etc for their benefit.
 

ShawnD1

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It's gambling. Not sure why some of you don't get it. o_O

It's the worst kind of gambling because it encourages everyone to order the most expensive food. If it's your money, you'll order a ham and cheese sandwich. If there's a 5/6 chance you won't need to pay for it, everyone is ordering steak and lobster with 10 beers to wash it down.
 

thegimp03

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Seven of us played it after having a huge meal at Delmonico Steakhouse down in Vegas last year and I was very glad that I didn't get picked. We played it again the next morning after drinking a bunch of long islands with breakfast and I didn't get picked then either.
 

rcpratt

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I've never done this. Why don't you either (a) pick up your own tabs or (b) just take turns picking up the tabs.

When I'm out with my buddy and his gf, we generally just take turn picking up the tabs, although I try to do it more often since he's still paying his own way through school and I've got a good job.
 

kranky

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two of my friends are out of work at the moment... I would never want to make them feel awkward about it, but when a big group of us are out, I'll take the lead in suggesting cheaper restaurants, free activities to do, etc for their benefit.

That's how friends should handle it.
 

skim milk

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I've never done this. Why don't you either (a) pick up your own tabs or (b) just take turns picking up the tabs.

When I'm out with my buddy and his gf, we generally just take turn picking up the tabs, although I try to do it more often since he's still paying his own way through school and I've got a good job.

People do it for fun. These are generally people in their 20s with disposable income who play games like these.

Why do people gamble? Same thing here.
 

rcpratt

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I guess, it just doesn't seem particularly fun to me. I've also never been much of a gambler, so...
 

DrPizza

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I've never done this. Why don't you either (a) pick up your own tabs or (b) just take turns picking up the tabs.

When I'm out with my buddy and his gf, we generally just take turn picking up the tabs, although I try to do it more often since he's still paying his own way through school and I've got a good job.
This. Credit card roulette sounds like something retarded played by people who think they're really "hip" by playing it. It's pretty easy to keep mental track of who has paid how much, and how to keep it even, when taking turns. And, if someone's as much of a douchebag where they'd decide, "okay, my turn, and it's breakfast at McD's which came to $15 for everyone; tonight when it comes to $200 for dinner, it's someone else's turn" - well, I tend not to be friends with people who behave that way.
 

Doppel

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For trying to keep up with your friends you deserve to lose at this silly game. Embrace the loss. Enjoy the money gouge. It is yours!

The psychology of such a game ensures the grand tab will be higher, too. Each person knows they probably won't end up being picked so consume more.
 

Jaepheth

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How is the paying card selected?
How are you sure it's a uniform distribution?

If you just fan them out and ask the server to pick, then the person who shuffles and holds the cards can play nasty tricks with how they place their own card relative to the others.

Do you carry a dice everyone rolls?

Do you have a random number generator app?

EDIT:
Also, why not choose a random 2 cars to split the bill; that way the loses don't lose quite so much.
 
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ShawnD1

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"okay, my turn, and it's breakfast at McD's which came to $15 for everyone; tonight when it comes to $200 for dinner, it's someone else's turn" - well, I tend not to be friends with people who behave that way.
This is why you should never pay anyone else's tab. NEVER.

Ask yourself why anyone would ever suggest some kind of scheme where people take turns buying things. They suggest that because they benefit from it. They benefit from screwing you. They would never suggest taking turns if they knew it would mean they subsidize your meals.
 

maziwanka

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who plays this when going out with friends?

I understand this to be like an I-Banker thing, but it seems I have too many friends who know I-Bankers or work in finance or accounting or consulting, but it seems like all those type-A personality people who work hard and play hard love playing this.

I guess I'm just ranting because I've lost 3 out of the last 5 games, and I'm the guy who's quit work to go back to school, so I'm the guy digging into savings to play this game. Damn. It's times like these I get jealous of my friends still making money while I'm slaving to try to get out of school ASAP so I can keep up with their spending.

Anyway, if you keep playing in the long run you should even out anyway right? As long as you're playing with the same people, which is usually hte case.

dude, if you don't want to lose, don't play. i play, but im prepared to pay if i lose. it does suck, but if you keep playing with all your friends, in the end it all evens out.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Not a good idea unless everyone has way more money than they need. Otherwise someone is going to go on a hot streak and never have to pay and is going to be resented for it damaging the friendship. Similar to why you should never lend friends money.
 
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I've heard of it but have never had to go through with it at a meal with my friends.

Sure we'll joke about it sometimes but in the end, we always just pay our own bills.