Creative Labs Audigy = SoundBlaster Live 2?

Pariah

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Very interesting that they would put firewire connections on a sound card.
 

Soccerman

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Very interesting that they would put firewire connections on a sound card.

why's that? soon Firewire is going to be THE connector for home audio equipment, might as well integrate it on one component that can especially benefit from it!
 

Piano Man

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I got a feeling that the sound quality of the Live2 will be as poor as the original. It looks like they are just going to add more effects to the chip. Oh well, I guess they are a gaming oriented company, but I don't think that is an excuse for a low quality DAC.
 

Pariah

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"Firewire is going to be THE connector for home audio equipment"

Says who? I have never seen a firewire connector on any home theater equipment, nor have I seen it on any other audio equipment, PC or not.
 

IamDavid

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Firewire on home audio equipment??? When? WHY? I haven't heard of this and I can't think of any reason of doin it..
 

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Those are two features that I know I will welcome. I hope this version is able to output to 41000khz as well as others.
 

Soccerman

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Firewire on home audio equipment??? When? WHY? I haven't heard of this and I can't think of any reason of doin it..

well, if you insist :)

Firewire would replace RCA connectors, and compete with, or replace the TOSLINK and Digital Coax cable (or whatever it is). It will not only allow for audio and video transfer (it's just as if it was over an RCA plug, but this way it is all digital), but other things as well :)

why then do we need/want this?

well, this can allow your CD player to put the title of the song you are playing on screen, or perhaps if it's advanced enough, you can have a visual plugin going (ala winamp!). Each device can actually talk to each other, rather then just direct traffic to and from each other, they understand commands from other devices.

you can have one device control all others (it's also done today, but you need a second wire to do so). You can set up alot of devices as well in daisychains, so the back of your reciever isn't necessarily full of RCA plugs, just a few Firewire ports!

there are many things you can do with it in other words. This product from Creative is one of the first that is available to the common person (without alot of searching that is) that has Firewire ports. In other words, it's going to be capable of talking to the rest of your home audio equipment.

I have often wanted to use a computer as the director of all audio traffic, except a few things limited me.

1) cards actually capable of connecting to such massive amounts of home audio equipment are hard to come by/expensive, and lack the functionality I want. I want it to nearly replace the reciever (I'd probably need an amplifier to connect the computer to the big speakers).

2) quality. if I want good quality components, that do the things I mentioned above, I'd have to pay WAAAYY too much. Analogue inputs and outputs are typically not that great. going digital allows for quality to increase a fair amount (though some restrictions still apply, the lower end equipment quality increases).

The problem is, equipment that actually has 1394 ports is rare (besides Camcorders), let alone equipment that utilizes it to the level that I mentioned above. Companies appear to be reluctant to release products with 1394 support, perhaps that is partly because the computer hasn't had a good soundcard with 1394 support, perhaps not.

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Soccerman

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why is it no-one posts responces to my large posts? why oh why??

anywho, here's a bump.

this card looks ok, but it's nothing really good :)

Aureal was lightyears ahead of Creative :p
 

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I'll wait for a soundcard from Nvidia.

Considering that Creative plans to stop making
videocards I assume they expect Nvidia to become
a competitor in audio .
 

JayPatel

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yah i must say ur input is much appreciated..i had no idea firewire was a thing of the furture for audio products
 

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i think i'm morally against this for the same sort of reasons that i'm morally against DVD, you know, the whole CSS and macrovision things. i still have a DVD player.



<< * PlayCenter 2 -- high quality 320kbps encoder with up to 9x digital audio acceleration; >>


does this mean there is hardware encoding? that would kick a$$! hardware decoding is pointless, winamp uses <1% processor time, but encoding, that takes forever. they really should change that from digital to compressed. CDs are digital. just a pet peeve of mine. sorry.
 

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Hrm maybe a decent card from CL after all. I recently suckered myself into buying a Live Platinum. Not the smartest choice I ever made. Lets how how the Sound card market heats up in the next few years :)
 

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<< Firewire is going to be THE connector for home audio equipment&quot;

Says who? I have never seen a firewire connector on any home theater equipment, nor have I seen it on any other audio equipment, PC or not.
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Yes there is some select firewire audio products... also some digital TVs and many Digital cameras have firewire ports already. There are/will be Digital VCRs that have firewire on them. If you cant tell I used to work in Video sales... Our Sony rep was telling us they will eventually be moving to a total digital entertainment system all hooked together with firewire.
 

Pariah

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&quot;Firewire would replace RCA connectors&quot;

I didn't get that impression at all from the links you posted, though that might be the eventual result, we are a long long way from anything replacing composite connectors. This thing looks more like a replacement for S-Link than anything else. Basically sounds like X-10 for home theater. I really don't see any purpose for this stuff. The articles have the words intoperatability and networking in practically every sentence though never do they list any useful applications for it. Ever heard of a universal remote?

Also, this appears to have no relevance to the new sound blaster card. For one, the connectors are only on the platinum version, and 2 the platinum version is recommended for &quot;DV enthusiasts&quot; which implies that they what put there only for people that have DV camcorders and want to do some video editing. I also don't see any reference to HAVi on the page.
 

Soccerman

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ahh here we go..

Basically sounds like X-10 for home theater. I really don't see any purpose for this stuff. The articles have the words intoperatability and networking in practically every sentence though never do they list any useful applications for it. Ever heard of a universal remote?

Universal remote, is but one use for Firewire devices.

basically what they're saying when they talk about networking, is basically connecting the devices together, as if they were part of a network.

It's true, Firewire has yet to take over the RCA port (it's not even on most stereo equipment), but that doesn't mean it isn't going to happen.

Also, this appears to have no relevance to the new sound blaster card. For one, the connectors are only on the platinum version, and 2 the platinum version is recommended for &quot;DV enthusiasts&quot; which implies that they what put there only for people that have DV camcorders and want to do some video editing. I also don't see any reference to HAVi on the page.

you are correct, they barely mention anything about Audio + Firewire, but that doesn't mean they won't be capable of using it when the time comes to plug your reciever into your soundcard using firewire.