Creatine

Alex

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Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Don't do it

a know a guy who took it and he said that as soon as you stop taking it you lose the results...

im leaning towards taking myoblast next semester..
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: franguinho
Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Don't do it

a know a guy who took it and he said that as soon as you stop taking it you lose the results...

im leaning towards taking myoblast next semester..

Yes. It increases your water retention, which for some reason or other increases your endurance, allowing you to work out harder. Once you stop, the water retention goes away, so do the benefits.
 

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Originally posted by: franguinho
Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Don't do it

a know a guy who took it and he said that as soon as you stop taking it you lose the results...

im leaning towards taking myoblast next semester..

Since when do you lose your gains? You might lose a few pounds because your muscles wont be retaining as much water but you won't loose actual muscle.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: franguinho
Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Don't do it

a know a guy who took it and he said that as soon as you stop taking it you lose the results...

im leaning towards taking myoblast next semester..

Since when do you lose your gains? You might lose a few pounds because your muscles wont be retaining as much water but you won't loose actual muscle.

Yea. You don't lose all of your muscle that you gained as a result of the extra endurance, but you lose the extra strenght/size from the using it.
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: franguinho
Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Don't do it

a know a guy who took it and he said that as soon as you stop taking it you lose the results...

im leaning towards taking myoblast next semester..

Yes. It increases your water retention, which for some reason or other increases your endurance, allowing you to work out harder. Once you stop, the water retention goes away, so do the benefits.

Which is why you never go cold-turkey. It's just not healthy to do it that way. Creatine works well for a lot of people to help accelerate their strength training. Don't use it for more than 3 months at a time and ween yourself from it over a period of 3 weeks, just as you do a loading phase.
 

Alex

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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: franguinho
Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Don't do it

a know a guy who took it and he said that as soon as you stop taking it you lose the results...

im leaning towards taking myoblast next semester..

Yes. It increases your water retention, which for some reason or other increases your endurance, allowing you to work out harder. Once you stop, the water retention goes away, so do the benefits.

Which is why you never go cold-turkey. It's just not healthy to do it that way. Creatine works well for a lot of people to help accelerate their strength training. Don't use it for more than 3 months at a time and ween yourself from it over a period of 3 weeks, just as you do a loading phase.

myoblast on the other hand is permanent gain because it gives you extra muscle fibers that are just there...they definitely dont go away
 

Train

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I used it a couple of times, in HS my 4x800 relay team did the one week load thingy, dropped 10 seconds off our time (avg 2.5 seconds per each persons half mile leg, a pretty good drop) It basically super-hydrates your muscles, making sure they never run out of water, which is a good thing when doing intense training. It also has some other effects that are similar to a high meat diet, with out all the heavy digesting required. Only side effect though was cramps, doing 4 doses a day for a week kills off the natural bacteria in your stomach, which is your only source for a certain mineral (im thinking vitamin K?) that keeps your muscles loose, similar to potassium, but anyways, every muscle in my body was tight, and no amount of stretching could loosen them up, kind of annoying but i guess it was worth having that little boost in endurance. There is slight weight gain but is minimal, max 10 pounds per the avg person. Some weight lifters use it to gain permanent weight, but its not the creatine itself that makes you gain weight, it just makes it easier for your body to build/repair quicker.

Considering safety, there have been no documented cases where creatine has caused a bad side effect other than the temporary soreness i described above. There were a few cases in the news, such as the michigan wrestler who died while on Creatine, but they eventually blamed in on him not eating enough because he was cutting weight, and training too hard, the role creatine played in this is not fully known, but most people think it had no negative affect.

If your looking at weight gain, like most people are, Id say just do the one dose a day thing, if you want to do the one week load of 3-4 doses a day then go to 1 a day, thats fine too. But the results from creatine alone will do nothing other than make your muscles swell for about a week and get your hopes up. I suggest a diet high in protein from Chicken, beef and fish such as Tuna and Salmon, more than enough carbs, and a decent amount of fats and oils. Maybe a multi vitamin just to hit anything you might have missed. And a heavy lifting workout only 3 times a week, allowing at least a day of rest after each workout for your body to recover. You need to keep a constant supply of protein and carbs in your system, this means breaking away from the traditional 3 meals a day, or more likely your 1-2 meals a day, and eat 6 meals a day, evenly spaced from the time you wake up til the time you go to bed. If your not using creatine for weight gain/short term strenght/edurance gain, theres not much else its good for except now they say it has been shown to reverse the degenerative process of Lou-Gehrigs Disease.

Creatine is expensive, and truthfully it will only increase your success by about 10% max if used properly.

Check out MuscleGainTips.com, its a good site with a lot of info, they pretty much have a nuetral stance on Supplements. I recomend signing up for thier free newsletter.