crazy theory I have on Terminator (3-4); warning SPOILERS

[glugglug]

John Connor and Kate Brewster have a kid (she is like the only human female that will survive the war right?). This kid is John Connor's father from Terminator 1.

So his father is also his son which makes him his own grandpa. And it means both John and his father/son end up screwing their respective grandmas.

The reason Arnold needs to ensure Kate's survival in T3 is so that she can give birth to John Connor's father, so that John can exist.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: glugglug
John Connor and Kate Brewster have a kid (she is like the only human female that will survive the war right?). This kid is John Connor's father from Terminator 1.

So his father is also his son which makes him his own grandpa. And it means both John and his father/son end up screwing their respective grandmas.

The reason Arnold needs to ensure Kate's survival in T3 is so that she can give birth to John Connor's father, so that John can exist.

Ummm, don't think that is possible. Reese is about the same age as John Connor in the future. For that to be possible John would have to be 24 years older than Kyle Reese.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Um, where the hell do you get that Reese is John Connor's son? That's the stupidest theory I've ever heard.

 

[Eli]

Smokecracker.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
Um, where the hell do you get that Reese is John Connor's son? That's the stupidest theory I've ever heard.

Well I have hung out on a lot of Terminator forums and this theory comes up every few days. So I wouldn't call it the stupidest idea but it isn't going to happen.

 

[DJFuji]

i think that causality states that john connor should not have existed in the first place because he CREATED HIMSELF by sending kyle reese back to the past. Or something like that, anyway. The john connor we saw could not have existed if he had not yet created himself. The only solution is that the john connor in the future was an alternate reality version of himself and that by sending reese back through time, he created another branch in the parallel universe structure. The john connor we saw was therefore NOT the son of kyle reese. The son of kyle reese was a john connor from a parallel universe. But this is precisely why most time travel movies dont work. If we were to try and explain them, they'd ruin the plot of the movie. For example, if the machines sent back a terminator to kill sarah or john, they'd create a new branch and new parallel universe, and their universe would stay the same. Therefore, it would be pointless to send anyone back in the first place because they wouldn't be altering THEIR future.

 

[Adul]

 

[LeeTJ]

Where exactly is the spoiler??

 

[sandmanwake]

Rip off of Futurama.

 

[brunswickite]

In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a
xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he
produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to
believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something?
Boy, I really hope somebody gotfired for that blunder.

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Ummm, don't think that is possible. Reese is about the same age as John Connor in the future. For that to be possible John would have to be 24 years older than Kyle Reese.

Reese is sent back from 2029, not from the time of T3 (is that supposed to be 2007 based on John being 22, or is it supposed to be now, 2003?).

In 2029, John will be 44. Anyways where does this "24 years" come from?

 

[ElFenix]

no. not at all.

there was no one at t3 last night

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: DJ Fuji
i think that causality states that john connor should not have existed in the first place because he CREATED HIMSELF by sending kyle reese back to the past. Or something like that, anyway. The john connor we saw could not have existed if he had not yet created himself. The only solution is that the john connor in the future was an alternate reality version of himself and that by sending reese back through time, he created another branch in the parallel universe structure. The john connor we saw was therefore NOT the son of kyle reese. The son of kyle reese was a john connor from a parallel universe. But this is precisely why most time travel movies dont work. If we were to try and explain them, they'd ruin the plot of the movie. For example, if the machines sent back a terminator to kill sarah or john, they'd create a new branch and new parallel universe, and their universe would stay the same. Therefore, it would be pointless to send anyone back in the first place because they wouldn't be altering THEIR future.

What he said.

 

[Spook]

OK, is anyone else waiting for the Matrix to collide with T4?...

 

[Krassus]

They said that only 3 billion people died in the war. I don't see how that makes her the last female alive.

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: DJ Fuji
i think that causality states that john connor should not have existed in the first place because he CREATED HIMSELF by sending kyle reese back to the past. Or something like that, anyway. The john connor we saw could not have existed if he had not yet created himself. The only solution is that the john connor in the future was an alternate reality version of himself and that by sending reese back through time, he created another branch in the parallel universe structure. The john connor we saw was therefore NOT the son of kyle reese. The son of kyle reese was a john connor from a parallel universe. But this is precisely why most time travel movies dont work. If we were to try and explain them, they'd ruin the plot of the movie. For example, if the machines sent back a terminator to kill sarah or john, they'd create a new branch and new parallel universe, and their universe would stay the same. Therefore, it would be pointless to send anyone back in the first place because they wouldn't be altering THEIR future.

exactly.