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So anyway, the other thread got locked about me working at Vons/Safeway And before I go on with my new story, I?d like to say that was some pretty poor modmanship. Yes, I had put profanity in the title?but I had edited it out, I said ?Female Dog? instead of ?bitch?,.
However, someone editedt my title back to Bitch. Such abuse of mod powers to try and make a point is totally uncalled for. Locking this thread will be a similar demonstration of the lack of cooperation between members and mods, which is one of the principle foundations that keeps a forum going. To add salt to the wound, the moderator that PM?ed me did not leave a name?thus I was unable to contact him further other than comply.
I understand I was wrong to add profanity in the title, but I learned and I edited out that profanity. Editing it back in and then using that as a pretext to lock the thread is asinine. This is no personal attack to the mod doing it, but I feel shafted as a result?I know it?s silly, but it?s nice to have someone provide real reasons to lock threads and not just say ?threadz lockz0red k bai?
OP, look at the other thread. The reason it was locked is stated at the bottom of your original post in that thread. And, it's signed by the moderator who locked it. Furthermore, you didn't need to explain to the members of this forum that your thread title was changed back to reflect its original wording. Again, the moderator stated such at the bottom of your original post. That change makes it clear to other members why we considered your thread to cross the line for tone right off the bat; it probably would have been locked regardless of your thread title.
However, this thread is in clear violation of guideline #13. Forum Guidelines Your statement "Locking this thread will be a similar demonstration of the lack of cooperation between members and mods..." comes across as a dare. Furthermore, the lack of cooperation was not due to the moderation of your other thread but rather your refusal to cooperate with the moderators, and now, it has earned you a vacation. -Anandtech Moderator DrPizza
Anyway, My Thread had some good comments going on, so I feel compelled to answer
There?s the thread if interested in checking it out. My response to lupi clearly demonstrates I complied with editing out text, only to have it edited back in.
Anyway, here are some comments I want to reply with about my work and dealing with that annoying piece of garbage incarnate who is a disgrace to the female gender.
Oldsmabot: Don't comment on my purchases. It's none of your fucking business.
I understand, but a harmless comment like ?These look good,? should be acceptable. That said, if a lady was buying a tampon I would not say, ?These look like they?ll come in handy,? it?s a similar response, but like you said, that?d be prime time to mind my own business.
hypn0tik:In all honesty though, why do you care about getting 100% with the secret shoppers? Do you get a pay increase or just a gold star next to your name?
I care about any job I do. I want to feel appreciated for what I do. Sure, I make $.50 above state minimum but I want to be appreciated and respected?that way I can come again for the job next year and have minimal retraining.
100% means my manager sees I know what I?m doing, is proud of me, and will get off my ass. Again, I just want to get that gold star?maybe I?m young, maybe I?m naïve, but I?d appreciate it.
LordMorpheus: the dumb customers aren't the problem, it sounds like the woman working the register is.
Sounds like management drives the baggers to be "social" and "friendly," he's just doing his job.
Yeah, and it?s me again, trying to get a 100%, trying to be friendly, trying to always push myself to impress customers, and management. I?ll be more prone for tips, and good words to management, which gives me more freedom to help the store gain profit.
Shaytahn:jlust smile at customers, ask them how they are doing, and continue to bag. I don't know where you work but when I go grocery shopping, the only thing I get from the bagger (if they are there) is "Need any hep out? Have a nice day."
You already have the support of your co-workers. You think a secret shopper is going to give you a bad rap because you didn't tell her how nice her ugly shoes were?
See, that?s the thing?you?re not impressed where you shop. Vons? goal is to have everybody happy, even if they didn?t find what they wanted, or the price was just a little too much. We?re not supposed to be fake asses, but we?re not supposed to advertise we don?t like our job. I do do that, but sometimes, I feel like going above and beyond.
Pyonir:she sounds pretty horrible and all...but you also sound pretty damn immature. Your post is a ridiculous mess...and i hope that's just because you were venting. You are always going to run into people like her, no matter what kind of job you have...it may be less severe at a decent job...but people like that are in nearly every workplace. Good luck.
I think your assumption is correct, I was half venting, half explaining. I totally understand that, and I work well with people?even her, but she seems to want to refuse to cooperate, and just wants to voice her mind and try to be the unique cutie muffins
Totally understood/agree about the working with peeps like that?I work well with people and other peeps in the store?and that?s why I?m venting at ATOT, or not at my manager, the union, or her.
CPA: Some people care about the quality of their work.
Bingo
Whoozyerdaddy:"It doesn't seem to me that pursuing your mythic destiny is something you need to get off a $7 an hour job to do."
- Romeo
Tin Cup
Just some career advice. I suggest you quit before you punch someone.
Good advice, I would not dream of punching her, but it would be nice. She?s very bossy?she?s probably insecure. I made sure to steer clear of her today.
I make 7.50, and I?m 16, so I reckon you gotta start your mythic destiny somewhere, and I like where I started so far.
Ok, so now that everyone?s comments I felt motivated to respond to have been done with, today, I was pushing carts outside, and I see an acquaintance who is Hispanic with his Hispanice thread driving a white Honda jeep sorta thing, and they?re circling the mall?I?m thinking, ?Whats -------- gunna do?? He?s silly, and I don?t think he realizes the consequences of his actions. So he?s driving, and his shady looking friend is sitting next to him. The parking lot has a street going horizontal, next to Vons, and perpendicular to it is the pavement intersecting. I?m about to cross the horizontal section when I hear ?eek? an engine vroom, and the white Honda takes off full speed right down the perpendicular pavement, swerves right into the horizontal road, scrapes one of my carts, and my Mexican acquaintance looks at me with a smile on his face and vrooms off. Another man says, ?Did you get their license plate?!? I didn?t know what he had done, so it hadn?t occurred to me to do that, so I said, ?No sir, sorry, I didn?t.? (I hadn?t). It appeared her purse had been stolen, but her credit cards, wallet and everything in the bag had fallen out due to it being unzipped. The security lady came over (she?s kinda obese or something) and asked about what happened. I bring out my manager who, ironically is Hispanic, he shrugs his shoulders, and tells me, if it happened in the store, we?d have to do something, but we can do nothing out here.?
I knew the guy?s name, but I didn?t tell, because I?m a bloody coward. I?m hating myself for not talking, but at the same time, I don?t know?this guy is unpredictable. Since it was only her purse, she didn?t make a police report, because she had insurance, she said. Nothing else was taken. I figured (at the time) if no report was made, no point in telling. I?m killing myself now. But I mean, it?s late, what can I do? Tell ?em some guy stole a purse, here?s his name?
She didn?t even want to make one.
I think I failed at life, but I know, if the police come knocking at my door, I will tell them everything?of course. What I am afraid, if she does make a report, and the police locate me, I could be put in jail for obstructing justice or something?or withholding information. My only defense would be my age (which I feel is kinda lame, but in this crazy world it is) and that I was shocked at something happening into silence. But still?
I know it?s silly, etc etc., but I dunno. I sure as hell don?t want to go to the same place, This guy is going
So any advice, comments, etc? I know I know, I know what I should have done, damnit, I really won?t be able to stop it?remorse is a bitch.
Cliffs:
If you posted in my thread, I responded to (most) of your comments
Complaining to Mods
Mexican Acquaintance snatches ladies purse--nothing is stolen but the purse, I don't give away name, didn't catch license plate--lady did not file police report
I feel like I failed my life test--I always said I'd do it, even if it was a friend, but hell...I failed--and I promise myself I do better next time.
However, someone editedt my title back to Bitch. Such abuse of mod powers to try and make a point is totally uncalled for. Locking this thread will be a similar demonstration of the lack of cooperation between members and mods, which is one of the principle foundations that keeps a forum going. To add salt to the wound, the moderator that PM?ed me did not leave a name?thus I was unable to contact him further other than comply.
I understand I was wrong to add profanity in the title, but I learned and I edited out that profanity. Editing it back in and then using that as a pretext to lock the thread is asinine. This is no personal attack to the mod doing it, but I feel shafted as a result?I know it?s silly, but it?s nice to have someone provide real reasons to lock threads and not just say ?threadz lockz0red k bai?
OP, look at the other thread. The reason it was locked is stated at the bottom of your original post in that thread. And, it's signed by the moderator who locked it. Furthermore, you didn't need to explain to the members of this forum that your thread title was changed back to reflect its original wording. Again, the moderator stated such at the bottom of your original post. That change makes it clear to other members why we considered your thread to cross the line for tone right off the bat; it probably would have been locked regardless of your thread title.
However, this thread is in clear violation of guideline #13. Forum Guidelines Your statement "Locking this thread will be a similar demonstration of the lack of cooperation between members and mods..." comes across as a dare. Furthermore, the lack of cooperation was not due to the moderation of your other thread but rather your refusal to cooperate with the moderators, and now, it has earned you a vacation. -Anandtech Moderator DrPizza
Anyway, My Thread had some good comments going on, so I feel compelled to answer
There?s the thread if interested in checking it out. My response to lupi clearly demonstrates I complied with editing out text, only to have it edited back in.
Anyway, here are some comments I want to reply with about my work and dealing with that annoying piece of garbage incarnate who is a disgrace to the female gender.
Oldsmabot: Don't comment on my purchases. It's none of your fucking business.
I understand, but a harmless comment like ?These look good,? should be acceptable. That said, if a lady was buying a tampon I would not say, ?These look like they?ll come in handy,? it?s a similar response, but like you said, that?d be prime time to mind my own business.
hypn0tik:In all honesty though, why do you care about getting 100% with the secret shoppers? Do you get a pay increase or just a gold star next to your name?
I care about any job I do. I want to feel appreciated for what I do. Sure, I make $.50 above state minimum but I want to be appreciated and respected?that way I can come again for the job next year and have minimal retraining.
100% means my manager sees I know what I?m doing, is proud of me, and will get off my ass. Again, I just want to get that gold star?maybe I?m young, maybe I?m naïve, but I?d appreciate it.
LordMorpheus: the dumb customers aren't the problem, it sounds like the woman working the register is.
Sounds like management drives the baggers to be "social" and "friendly," he's just doing his job.
Yeah, and it?s me again, trying to get a 100%, trying to be friendly, trying to always push myself to impress customers, and management. I?ll be more prone for tips, and good words to management, which gives me more freedom to help the store gain profit.
Shaytahn:jlust smile at customers, ask them how they are doing, and continue to bag. I don't know where you work but when I go grocery shopping, the only thing I get from the bagger (if they are there) is "Need any hep out? Have a nice day."
You already have the support of your co-workers. You think a secret shopper is going to give you a bad rap because you didn't tell her how nice her ugly shoes were?
See, that?s the thing?you?re not impressed where you shop. Vons? goal is to have everybody happy, even if they didn?t find what they wanted, or the price was just a little too much. We?re not supposed to be fake asses, but we?re not supposed to advertise we don?t like our job. I do do that, but sometimes, I feel like going above and beyond.
Pyonir:she sounds pretty horrible and all...but you also sound pretty damn immature. Your post is a ridiculous mess...and i hope that's just because you were venting. You are always going to run into people like her, no matter what kind of job you have...it may be less severe at a decent job...but people like that are in nearly every workplace. Good luck.
I think your assumption is correct, I was half venting, half explaining. I totally understand that, and I work well with people?even her, but she seems to want to refuse to cooperate, and just wants to voice her mind and try to be the unique cutie muffins
Totally understood/agree about the working with peeps like that?I work well with people and other peeps in the store?and that?s why I?m venting at ATOT, or not at my manager, the union, or her.
CPA: Some people care about the quality of their work.
Bingo
Whoozyerdaddy:"It doesn't seem to me that pursuing your mythic destiny is something you need to get off a $7 an hour job to do."
- Romeo
Tin Cup
Just some career advice. I suggest you quit before you punch someone.
Good advice, I would not dream of punching her, but it would be nice. She?s very bossy?she?s probably insecure. I made sure to steer clear of her today.
I make 7.50, and I?m 16, so I reckon you gotta start your mythic destiny somewhere, and I like where I started so far.
Ok, so now that everyone?s comments I felt motivated to respond to have been done with, today, I was pushing carts outside, and I see an acquaintance who is Hispanic with his Hispanice thread driving a white Honda jeep sorta thing, and they?re circling the mall?I?m thinking, ?Whats -------- gunna do?? He?s silly, and I don?t think he realizes the consequences of his actions. So he?s driving, and his shady looking friend is sitting next to him. The parking lot has a street going horizontal, next to Vons, and perpendicular to it is the pavement intersecting. I?m about to cross the horizontal section when I hear ?eek? an engine vroom, and the white Honda takes off full speed right down the perpendicular pavement, swerves right into the horizontal road, scrapes one of my carts, and my Mexican acquaintance looks at me with a smile on his face and vrooms off. Another man says, ?Did you get their license plate?!? I didn?t know what he had done, so it hadn?t occurred to me to do that, so I said, ?No sir, sorry, I didn?t.? (I hadn?t). It appeared her purse had been stolen, but her credit cards, wallet and everything in the bag had fallen out due to it being unzipped. The security lady came over (she?s kinda obese or something) and asked about what happened. I bring out my manager who, ironically is Hispanic, he shrugs his shoulders, and tells me, if it happened in the store, we?d have to do something, but we can do nothing out here.?
I knew the guy?s name, but I didn?t tell, because I?m a bloody coward. I?m hating myself for not talking, but at the same time, I don?t know?this guy is unpredictable. Since it was only her purse, she didn?t make a police report, because she had insurance, she said. Nothing else was taken. I figured (at the time) if no report was made, no point in telling. I?m killing myself now. But I mean, it?s late, what can I do? Tell ?em some guy stole a purse, here?s his name?
She didn?t even want to make one.
I think I failed at life, but I know, if the police come knocking at my door, I will tell them everything?of course. What I am afraid, if she does make a report, and the police locate me, I could be put in jail for obstructing justice or something?or withholding information. My only defense would be my age (which I feel is kinda lame, but in this crazy world it is) and that I was shocked at something happening into silence. But still?
I know it?s silly, etc etc., but I dunno. I sure as hell don?t want to go to the same place, This guy is going
So any advice, comments, etc? I know I know, I know what I should have done, damnit, I really won?t be able to stop it?remorse is a bitch.
Cliffs:
If you posted in my thread, I responded to (most) of your comments
Complaining to Mods
Mexican Acquaintance snatches ladies purse--nothing is stolen but the purse, I don't give away name, didn't catch license plate--lady did not file police report
I feel like I failed my life test--I always said I'd do it, even if it was a friend, but hell...I failed--and I promise myself I do better next time.
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