Crazy religious family assaults gay son when he tells them he's gay (caught on video)

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Retro Rob

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Yeah, damn their "acceptance" agenda.

You know what I mean.

...and I'm not going to argue a point you obviously understand.

Obviously it ended up being a good idea to record the confrontation as he was physically assaulted.

Again, you understand what I'm saying. You can argue that strawman on your own.
 

MrPickins

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You know what I mean.

...and I'm not going to argue a point you obviously understand.



Again, you understand what I'm saying. You can argue that strawman on your own.

Neither you nor I know the events that led up to this video being recorded, but yet you claim that the confrontation was instigated by the son, that he had an agenda.

You're attempting to provide mitigating circumstances for the action of the parents.

Call it what you want, you're making excuses (that aren't even based in fact).
 

twinrider1

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-My hunch is the video is real, but the kid set up the situation to happen. Like he wanted evidence to support his side of the story.
-Thread title is inaccurate. His being gay was already known, if not officially announced. The first two minutes were pretty calm. There were underlying issues bubbling up, sounded like his Facebook comments were a hot button.
-He isn't a kid, he's at least 20 years old. They don't need a reason to kick him out.
-Being Christian doesn't mean you're perfect. Those parents were no prize. But being gay doesn't give you an excuse to be an ass either.

I do hope he finds a safe place. They should love their son, but they don't (no matter what they tell themselves). It's time for him to find his own path.
 

Retro Rob

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Neither you nor I know the events that led up to this video being recorded, but yet you claim that the confrontation was instigated by the son, that he had an agenda.

Not outside of the realm of possiblity...I knew you understood my point.

I don't have emotional ties to gays like you do, so I'm being objective in my assessment.

You're attempting to provide mitigating circumstances for the action of the parents.

Not really. Just pointing out that youtube vids of a personal nature are often biased.

He probably knew how'd they react, so he was trying to hide his camera and by not pointing it directly at them.

Like I said, they gay agenda.
 

MrPickins

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I don't have emotional ties to gays like you do, so I'm being objective in my assessment.

No, you have emotional ties to Christians/Christianity, so your assessment is biased.

To claim otherwise is lying to us and yourself.


Not really. Just pointing out that youtube vids of a personal nature are often biased.

He probably knew how'd they react, so he was trying to hide his camera and by not pointing it directly at them.

Like I said, they gay agenda.

Like I said, mitigating/excusing the actions of the parents.

You don't have to defend someone's despicable actions just because they're of the same faith as you.

I'm pretty sure Jesus would not have. :colbert:
 

Cerpin Taxt

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No, you have emotional ties to Christians/Christianity, so your assessment is biased.

To claim otherwise is lying to us and yourself.
Can you picture Rob's thread if this was a video of a newly-declared Christian "coming out" to his atheist parents, and they treated him similarly?

You think he be speculating about the Christian son's "agenda"?

:rolleyes:
 

justoh

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-My hunch is the video is real, but the kid set up the situation to happen.
-He isn't a kid, he's at least 20 years old.

-Being Christian doesn't mean you're perfect.

??

Well, no, unless by perfect you mean stupid.
 

Retro Rob

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Can you picture Rob's thread if this was a video of a newly-declared Christian "coming out" to his atheist parents, and they treated him similarly?

You think he be speculating about the Christian son's "agenda"?

:rolleyes:


Funny thing is, I don't make videos at all, let alone those of a personal nature, and if I did post it on the internet for the world to see, it would be for the purpose of making atheists parents look intolerant of religious people.

People like making themselves look like innocent victims.
 

Retro Rob

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-My hunch is the video is real, but the kid set up the situation to happen. Like he wanted evidence to support his side of the story.
-Thread title is inaccurate. His being gay was already known, if not officially announced. The first two minutes were pretty calm. There were underlying issues bubbling up, sounded like his Facebook comments were a hot button.
-He isn't a kid, he's at least 20 years old. They don't need a reason to kick him out.
-Being Christian doesn't mean you're perfect. Those parents were no prize. But being gay doesn't give you an excuse to be an ass either.

I do hope he finds a safe place. They should love their son, but they don't (no matter what they tell themselves). It's time for him to find his own path.


This is essentially my take on it as well.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Funny thing is, I don't make videos at all, let alone those of a personal nature, and if I did post it on the internet for the world to see, it would be for the purpose of making atheists parents look intolerant of religious people.
Who was talking about you making a video?

Guess what? I make my own yogurt. That's equally relevant to this thread as what you just said.

People like making themselves look like innocent victims.
People also like to make excuses for those they perceive to be like themselves.
 

Retro Rob

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Who was talking about you making a video?

Guess what? I make my own yogurt. That's equally relevant to this thread as what you just said.


People also like to make excuses for those they perceive to be like themselves.

Yeah, my bad for not reading your post, still, the point remains that such a one-sided video, particulaly one concerning the gay/religious community, should always be view with a degree of skepticism.

Its hardly ever completely the fault of just one party.
 

twinrider1

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This is essentially my take on it as well.

And you typed most of it before me. :)
I started reading the thread, thought it best to just leave it alone, then came back to it, watched the video, gave it some thought, rewatched the video, and typed my response. I take way too long to form my thoughts sometimes.
 

artvscommerce

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Perhaps encouragement to change to being straight, maybe counseling of sorts, but it has to be his choice in the end. Forcing would not be right, and those are the type of people I could see try to do that. If he really does not want to change then it's his life and they should not judge him for it. Do not judge or you too will be judged. They should know that. I'm sure those parents have sinned plenty like any other person so they should not judge him and freak out like that. I'm probably taking this out of context here but there's a passage in the Bible about taking out the log in your own eye before telling someone they have a piece of dust in theirs. Applies to this family.

Some people are born with hormones that are more on the opposite sex side and it probably influences if they end up being gay or not, so I'm sure it's not something that easy to control.

I hate making generalizations like this, but I don't see how you could possibly be straight and have this point of view. This perspective only makes sense to me if you were a gay or bisexual person living as a "straight" person. At least then I could see the motivation to expect others to live like a "straight" person as well. But if you're actually straight or openly gay, it should be abundantly obvious how ridiculous this notion is.
 
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Yeah, my bad for not reading your post, still, the point remains that such a one-sided video, particulaly one concerning the gay/religious community, should always be view with a degree of skepticism.

Its hardly ever completely the fault of just one party.

Its the fault of the intolerant uncaring unloving parents due to there religion.

if they were tolerant, loving and caring parents this wouldnt be an issue at all.
 
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Platypus

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I hate making generalizations like this, but I don't see how you could possibly be straight and have this point of view. This perspective only makes sense to me if you were a gay or bisexual person living as a "straight" person. At least then I could see the motivation to expect others to live like a "straight" person as well. But if you're actually straight or openly gay, it should be abundantly obvious how ridiculous this notion is.

The problem is that when questioned on it he never replies. He's either a dedicated troll, a super repressed homosexual himself, or just really ignorant. The last one holding less and less water as more people try to correct his really distorted perception and it not sinking in.
 
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I'm so glad i chose heterosexuality when growing up. Funny i don't remember making that choice, but i must have right?
 

badb0y

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This is essentially my take on it as well.

Yeah, my bad for not reading your post, still, the point remains that such a one-sided video, particulaly one concerning the gay/religious community, should always be view with a degree of skepticism.

Its hardly ever completely the fault of just one party.

And you typed most of it before me. :)
I started reading the thread, thought it best to just leave it alone, then came back to it, watched the video, gave it some thought, rewatched the video, and typed my response. I take way too long to form my thoughts sometimes.
Since no one is going to bother looking up the background information, I will do it for you. This video was not setup by the kid, it was an intervention setup by the kid's parents. So there goes that.
 

twinrider1

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Sounded more like an ultimatum than an intervention.

Edit: Which, as I think about it, pretty much what an intervention is.


There's a lot we don't know. We do know mom lost her cool and went after the young man. We don't know if he just defended himself or starting beating on mom. Then dad jumped in on the son. Beyond that, we're just speculating.
 
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Ns1

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Did red squirrel leave this thread in shame? Probably for the best.