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crazy monday night football

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MrDingleDangle

Lifer
damn good game...craziness at the ending...those refs better not go out on the town in tennessee tonight, they might get shot...

at least they reversed the call i mean otehrwise it looked like ray lewis might just kill someone...oh wait a minute...
 
I was up by three points in fantasy football and my opponent had Eddie George....I was so mad that the last play might be him getting the ball!!! Big sigh of relief!
 
An "untimed down"? What the hell is that? That was a wacky last few minutes.




<< at least they reversed the call i mean otehrwise it looked like ray lewis might just kill someone...oh wait a minute... >>



LOL. "I didn't kill no motherf#%&ing lion, I didn't see nobody kill no one."
 
yea it was wild, the play the titans ran at the end wasnt a good choice, they knew mcnabb would run it up the middle, ravens were all over it
 
An untimed down is a down with 0:00 on the clock. But they gave them 3 seconds. Odd.
My Ravens pulled it out! Refs really screwed the pooch with the so called Dyson sideline "catch" and the roughing the passer call. Even with BS officiating, we pulled it out at the end. Titans didn't have 7 men on the line of scrimmage at the last play so it didn't even matter, they shoulda been 5 yds back
 
rival, its McNair, but who cares...
Thats why the Ravens are champs...don't let crap like that get by
 
That game was officiated so poorly. The catch on the sideling and the roughing the passer and the whole end of the game. It was terrible.
 
Untimed downs can occur on a pass interference on the last play of either half, or something similar. A game cannot end on a defensive penalty
 
that was a poor play call. I wouldn't have run him up the middle again, the ravens were expecting it. I would have had him roll out ot pass , then run it in. or a sweep to george. Something that wasn't right up the gut where they knew it was gonna go.
 


<< My Ravens pulled it out! Refs really screwed the pooch with the so called Dyson sideline "catch" and the roughing the passer call. Even with BS officiating, we pulled it out at the end. Titans didn't have 7 men on the line of scrimmage at the last play so it didn't even matter, they shoulda been 5 yds back >>



Dyson's catch seemed legit, since he was pushed out, and, since it was *initially* ruled a catch, there wasnt enough evidence to overturn. The roughing the passer call was terrible, and nearly cost the ravens the game-too bad it didnt.

The lack of 7 men on the line is irrelevant-the penalty occurred before the snap, so the illegal formation essentially never happened. The refs got it right.
 
There are several problems here:
1) Boulware is entitled to getting back, he made every effort to
2) The refs never spotted the ball, Bruce Matthews spotted the ball. That's illegal.
3) The titans had an illegal formation without 7 men on the line. That is an automatic 10 seconds off of the clock.
4) They also false started.
5) Dysons catch was not legit, even the announcers thought not, because his right foot was in the air. His momentum was taking him out of bounds

Tagliabue tried real hard to fix this one!
 


<< There are several problems here:
1) Boulware is entitled to getting back, he made every effort to
2) The refs never spotted the ball, Bruce Matthews spotted the ball. That's illegal.
3) The titans had an illegal formation without 7 men on the line. That is an automatic 10 seconds off of the clock.
4) They also false started.
5) Dysons catch was not legit, even the announcers thought not, because his right foot was in the air. His momentum was taking him out of bounds

Tagliabue tried real hard to fix this one! >>



Multiple problems with your "analysis"....

1) Boulware is entitled to get back, but he IS NOT allowed to make contact. Contact automatically results in a pentaly. Everything after that is nulled.
2) The refereee spotted the ball, not Matthews. You need to go back and watch again. It was the ref.
3) There is no illegal formation. Illegal formation isn't a penalty until the ball gets snapped. Play was blown dead before the ball was snapped. Thus, no illegal formation. If there wasn't contact and the play continued normally, it would have been illegal formation. The refs got it 100% right. From the lack of calling the illegal formation that wasn't there to the ruling that there should be 1 untimed down, the call was 100% correct.
4) Tennessee didn't false start. Even if they had (which they hadn't) please see comment on #3 why it wouldn't matter. Everything is dead once Boulware made contact.
5) Debatable. No conclusive evidence either way, so the call on the field stands.

The only legit gripe that you have is the roughing call, which should not have been called.

The previous has been brought to you by an impartial viewer.
 


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3) There is no illegal formation. Illegal formation isn't a penalty until the ball gets snapped. Play was blown dead before the ball was snapped. Thus, no illegal formation. If there wasn't contact and the play continued normally, it would have been illegal formation. The refs got it 100% right. From the lack of calling the illegal formation that wasn't there to the ruling that there should be 1 untimed down, the call was 100% correct.
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They did snap the ball with only 6 on the line though. When mcnair went for the qbsneak after the dyson catch, they only had 6 on the line, so why wouldn't that be illegal formation?
 


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They did snap the ball with only 6 on the line though. When mcnair went for the qbsneak after the dyson catch, they only had 6 on the line, so why wouldn't that be illegal formation? >>



The snap doesn't matter because play was already blown dead. The contact by the defensive guy makes everything afterwards (including the snap) irrelevant.

 


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3) There is no illegal formation. Illegal formation isn't a penalty until the ball gets snapped. Play was blown dead before the ball was snapped. Thus, no illegal formation. If there wasn't contact and the play continued normally, it would have been illegal formation. The refs got it 100% right. From the lack of calling the illegal formation that wasn't there to the ruling that there should be 1 untimed down, the call was 100% correct.
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They did snap the ball with only 6 on the line though. When mcnair went for the qbsneak after the dyson catch, they only had 6 on the line, so why wouldn't that be illegal formation? >>




because the play is dead the second contact is made...which was before the snap...so the snap didnt count, which means the illegal formation never really got a chance to occur
 
huh? did they blow it dead? From what I saw, it looked they let mcnair run the snap, and it was only after the conference w/ other refs did they call it contact by the def.
 
What they should have done is play actioned and then have McNair bootleg it in...the Ravens' defense had all but collapsed the middle. Ah well, hindsight in 20/20...

That's twice now that the Titans have come up 1 yard short...
 


<< huh? did they blow it dead? From what I saw, it looked they let mcnair run the snap, and it was only after the conference w/ other refs did they call it contact by the def. >>



they didnt originally blow it dead...but after they decided in the conference that it was contact made, the play doesnt matter...they decided they should have blown it dead there, so nothing after that should ever have happened
 
I call your attention to this.


<< After McNair had hit Kevin Dyson on the 1-yard line and time was running out, McNair gathered his offense at the line while center Bruce Matthews grabbed the ball from the official, and hiked it. In a frenzied play where no one seemed to be properly positioned, the 6-foot-2, 225-pound QB bullied his way into the end zone, and sent the capacity crowd into an early Thanksgiving. >>


Hello! He took the ball and hiked it. Can't do that.
 


<< I call your attention to this.


<< After McNair had hit Kevin Dyson on the 1-yard line and time was running out, McNair gathered his offense at the line while center Bruce Matthews grabbed the ball from the official, and hiked it. In a frenzied play where no one seemed to be properly positioned, the 6-foot-2, 225-pound QB bullied his way into the end zone, and sent the capacity crowd into an early Thanksgiving. >>


Hello! He took the ball and hiked it. Can't do that. >>



The ball was on the ground in place after being set there by the officials when Matthews "grabbed it from the official". Look at the video of the time in between plays. You can clearly see the ref taking the ball, running to the spot, setting the ball on the ground. Maybe Matthews had his hands on it for a second while hte ref still had his hands on it (which there is nothing wrong with), but the ball was definitely set in place by the referee.
 
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