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Crazy ass torpedos travel at the speed of sound!

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Reading yesterday in a new popular science publication that the US has developed and tested a torpedo that can travel past the speed of sound. It mentioned that the russians had one that travels over 200 mph. I found this article but have not read it yet. Basically
By traveling inside drag-cutting gas pockets, new subsea systems can move much faster underwater than their conventional counterparts on the same amount of energy
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. I guess the range of conventional torpedos is crappy and puts the sub in harm's way, but these new ones have a much greater range and travel fast as heck!
 
I guess this could be useful against surface ships, but how are you going to detect a sub at extremely long ranges?
 
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
I guess this could be useful against surface ships, but how are you going to detect a sub at extremely long ranges?
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Maybe if you have a few military crafts working together? Say some futuristic unmanned reconnaissance crafts detect the sub, then our sub goes in and blows it outa the water?

<== monkey dance
 
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
I guess this could be useful against surface ships, but how are you going to detect a sub at extremely long ranges?
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well..they have sound/emf chasing devices now ..so.......
 
Faster than sound through water, or faster than sound through air? Sound moves much faster through water than air.
 
Read that article - it said that this potential is akin to going from prop to jet engines in aircrafts and I agree. I don't know how long it would take to implement technically but it speaks of high speed ship armadas and smaller high speed submarines. Think - if you've got a sub that can travel at 200 mph itself and has anti-torpedo weapons that are super-sonic the thing is essentially indestructible. It could really change the face of naval warfare. Or a high speed surface ship that operates like a hydroplane, but more effectively. It could result in some "crazy ass" stuff.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Faster than sound through water, or faster than sound through air? Sound moves much faster through water than air.
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Same thing I was thinking. Sound travels at 337.79 m/s +/- 0.1 @ 10C, 50% RH Humidity. The speed of sound in water is 1480 m/s or 4856 ft/s. More than 3000 miles per hour.

 
Originally posted by: notfred
Faster than sound through water, or faster than sound through air? Sound moves much faster through water than air.
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Relative to the speed of subs and surface ships, it doesn't matter.
 
Originally posted by: boi
Originally posted by: notfred
Faster than sound through water, or faster than sound through air? Sound moves much faster through water than air.
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Same thing I was thinking. Sound travels at 337.79 m/s +/- 0.1 @ 10C, 50% RH Humidity. The speed of sound in water is 1480 m/s or 4856 ft/s. More than 3000 miles per hour.
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Point is, they're making torpedos that can go 200mph. Isn't that enough for you? 😛

- M4H
 
The Russian version (Shvak) is faulty, it was reported to the the cause of the explosion behind the sinking of the nuclear sub "Kursk"
The Russian version is said to be liquid-fueled, rocket powered. Unstable.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: boi
Originally posted by: notfred
Faster than sound through water, or faster than sound through air? Sound moves much faster through water than air.
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Same thing I was thinking. Sound travels at 337.79 m/s +/- 0.1 @ 10C, 50% RH Humidity. The speed of sound in water is 1480 m/s or 4856 ft/s. More than 3000 miles per hour.
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Point is, they're making torpedos that can go 200mph. Isn't that enough for you? 😛

- M4H
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Canada made a deal with the Putin, and is getting the Shkval. There was a really interesting doc on one of the CBC investigative shows that tracked the Shkvals development, and the whole spy thing. Very good show.
 
Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: TapTap
The Russian version (Shvak) is faulty, it was reported to the the cause of the explosion behind the sinking of the nuclear sub "Kursk"
The Russian version is said to be liquid-fueled, rocket powered. Unstable.
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It didn't stop you guys from trying to get your hands on them.
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"You guys?"

Maybe "we" can make it work.......................
 
Originally posted by: TapTap
Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: TapTap
The Russian version (Shvak) is faulty, it was reported to the the cause of the explosion behind the sinking of the nuclear sub "Kursk"
The Russian version is said to be liquid-fueled, rocket powered. Unstable.
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It didn't stop you guys from trying to get your hands on them.
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"You guys?"

Maybe "we" can make it work before you lose more subs....................
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You guys, as in the American Government. I'm Canadian btw, so we didn't loose any subs.... although ours are barely working. 😱
 
Well I hope the canadian gov't isn't going to buy any of the versions that have no ability to turn. Just what canada needs - leaking submarines with torpedos that don't turn. Then when the sub has a catastrophe at sea they can send a barely working sea king helicopter to rescue them :|
 
"Naval Undersea Warfare Center Division Newport in Rhode Island demonstrated the fully submerged launch of a supercavitating projectile with a muzzle velocity of 1,549 meters per second, which exceeds the speed of sound in water."
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well I hope the canadian gov't isn't going to buy any of the versions that have no ability to turn. Just what canada needs - leaking submarines with torpedos that don't turn. Then when the sub has a catastrophe at sea they can send a barely working sea king helicopter to rescue them :|
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Sigh...what should we do Skoorb? Someone needs to talk some sense into that old geezer PM we have...better yet, we need fresh blood...

(Notice I didn't say anything bad about J.C., only that he is OLD! 😛 )
 
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
I guess this could be useful against surface ships, but how are you going to detect a sub at extremely long ranges?
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The SOSUS line is one way we keep track of underwater traffic. Modern sub hunting is done with helicopters and sonar bouys. After a sub is located a torpedo is launced from the helicopter or various other types of aircraft.

If a torpedo could be made that goes 200mph UNDER the water, it would make most guns obsolete. In the antiship role this torpedo might prove unstopable.

Imagine a drone with a laser targeting system. It could target the intended ship 100s of miles away and could hit it's target with pinpoint accuracy!

Listening systems than can now detect a torpedo at long range would be rendered useless. One of the reasons torpedos are fired from a sub is that they are so easy to track. Once a sub fires a conventional torpedo everyone within a 100 miles knows exactly where it is. Amazing stuff!
 
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