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Quiksilver

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Try it on a known stable OS .
Not Windows 7(I mean come on, it's still in beta ffs.)
 

techboie

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In India, 4GB of gaming memory from OCZ still costs around $110.

Also, what do you say about this?

Statistics
Average FPS: 24.18
Duration: 37.42 sec
CPU Usage: 91%
System memory usage: 80%
Video memory usage: 100%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (75 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 100
Detail Distance: 100

Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 702-1670-750
Video Driver version: 180.84
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz@3.03 ghz[ram@900MHz cl4-2t]

File ID: benchmark.cli
 

techboie

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Just noticed, the PC was not overclocked.

OCed to 3.5GHz and 960MHz
Avg FPS 35
Oced GPU too
Avg FPS 32

But in game performance is not much different. Game is okay while not driving. However driving is full of stuttering at each turn and dips below 10 FPS constantly.
 

Udgnim

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Originally posted by: techboie
Just noticed, the PC was not overclocked.

OCed to 3.5GHz and 960MHz
Avg FPS 35
Oced GPU too
Avg FPS 32

But in game performance is not much different. Game is okay while not driving. However driving is full of stuttering at each turn and dips below 10 FPS constantly.

turn off the GTA 4 clip recording function

 

techboie

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The game runs fine with this tweak, although the FPS increase is not as great as that person claimed. Anyway, but while driving I am having stuttering, everytime I turn it stops.

The clipbat or something tweak.

Now the only problem is stuttering while turning while driving, it stops whenever I turn.
 

AzN

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Nov 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: techboie
In India, 4GB of gaming memory from OCZ still costs around $110.

Also, what do you say about this?

Statistics
Average FPS: 24.18
Duration: 37.42 sec
CPU Usage: 91%
System memory usage: 80%
Video memory usage: 100%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (75 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 100
Detail Distance: 100

Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 702-1670-750
Video Driver version: 180.84
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz@3.03 ghz[ram@900MHz cl4-2t]

File ID: benchmark.cli

That's your problem right there.

You are playing high textures, view distance 100, detail distance 100 on a 8600gt. Those settings would even make GTX 280 struggle.

Try medium textures, view distance 21, detail distance 30 and try benchmarking again. You better make sure your 8600gt has 512mb of vram for medium textures or else you should be turning down your texture level to low.
 

Spicedaddy

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Apr 18, 2002
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Originally posted by: techboie
In India, 4GB of gaming memory from OCZ still costs around $110.

Also, what do you say about this?

Statistics
Average FPS: 24.18
Duration: 37.42 sec
CPU Usage: 91%
System memory usage: 80%
Video memory usage: 100%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (75 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 100
Detail Distance: 100

Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 702-1670-750
Video Driver version: 180.84
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz@3.03 ghz[ram@900MHz cl4-2t]

File ID: benchmark.cli


High texture quality= you need 1GB of video ram
View distance 100= you need a high-clocked Core2Quad or Core i7

When a game runs too slow, drop down the settings?
 

chizow

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Jun 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: techboie
Just noticed, the PC was not overclocked.

OCed to 3.5GHz and 960MHz
Avg FPS 35
Oced GPU too
Avg FPS 32

But in game performance is not much different. Game is okay while not driving. However driving is full of stuttering at each turn and dips below 10 FPS constantly.
Huh? Those are huge increases compared to the 24.18 FPS at 3GHz. That's better than linear scaling from CPU clock increases. There's just too many inconsistencies in your posts making it difficult to narrow down the problems. Do you have an E7300 or an E2160?

Originally posted by: Azn
That's your problem right there.

You are playing high textures, view distance 100, detail distance 100 on a 8600gt. Those settings would even make GTX 280 struggle.

Try medium textures, view distance 21, detail distance 30 and try benchmarking again. You better make sure your 8600gt has 512mb of vram for medium textures or else you should be turning down your texture level to low.
I'd agree view distance and texture settings are most likely causing the stutters as textures are constantly swapping to/from VRAM, although 80% System memory usage with 2GB could also be part of the problem.

With high textures I can only use 31-32 Viewing Distance on a GTX 280 with 1GB, although I get 53-54FPS in the benchmark because of my Quad.
 

chizow

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Jun 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Udgnim
turn off the GTA 4 clip recording function
Yep that's an effective fix for the RESC10 out of video memory error and does seem to make the game smoother overall as replays aren't constantly being cached. I just wish there was a way to permanently turn it off instead of having to turn it off every time.

Another interesting tweak I found is that GTA4 is extremely sensitive to memory timings. I loosened a few up trying to hit higher memory clocks and it totally destroyed my performance. I'm talking 24 FPS compared to 54 FPS in the benchmark from just memory timings.
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: techboie
In India, 4GB of gaming memory from OCZ still costs around $110.

Also, what do you say about this?

Statistics
Average FPS: 24.18
Duration: 37.42 sec
CPU Usage: 91%
System memory usage: 80%
Video memory usage: 100%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (75 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 100
Detail Distance: 100

Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 702-1670-750
Video Driver version: 180.84
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz@3.03 ghz[ram@900MHz cl4-2t]

File ID: benchmark.cli

That's your problem right there.

You are playing high textures, view distance 100, detail distance 100 on a 8600gt. Those settings would even make GTX 280 struggle.

Try medium textures, view distance 21, detail distance 30 and try benchmarking again. You better make sure your 8600gt has 512mb of vram for medium textures or else you should be turning down your texture level to low.

Yea he's complaining about not being able to run the game on the hightest settings when his hardware is old.
 

roid450

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ive been playing GTA4 extensively. and reading he GTA Forums daily

your problem is the Dual core and 2gb ram. get a quad core and 4gb at least and you will be fine.

the system in my sig runs GTA4 at 25-35 alll the time since im using a frame limiter set to 35 fps and no verticalsync. I run the game at:
1680-1050
High, Very High
distance 30
Density of cars 50
Detail distance 50
Shadow Density 8
 

MTDEW

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Oct 31, 1999
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Originally posted by: techboie
According to the benchies I should be getting 27 FPS on a GTX 280 and I am getting 25 FPS on a 4850. But not real world. Only in the benchmark. That is useless anyway. :(
????huh????
The GTX 280 has 1gb of video memory, you have 512mb of video memory, thats why everyone is suggesting you to try turning textures to medium.

We're trying to help you get better performance and explain that you are getting about what performance you should be getting for your pc specs with this game.

Should you run out and upgrade your pc for one game?
Now thats entirely up to you whether its worth it or not.

We're not saying your pc specs are poor, as you said all other games run fine.
Its GTAIV itself that needs "more" than any other current title to run maxed at high rez.

Regardless, at the very least when running Vista or Windows 7 beta , i agree with everyone else, you should have at least 4gb of ram to game on those OS's.
Or dual boot with Winxp if you really wanna keep Windows 7, and use Winxp for gaming.



 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
E7200 @ 3.5GHz is the limiting factor in my case, and I have a worse video card than you (3870 512MB). I play it at 1280x800 Medium/High/22/20/20/2.

It's right there in the readme, yet everybody's expecting to max out everything on a dual-core...


Minimum Hardware Requirements:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, AMD Athlon X2 64 2.4Ghz
Memory: 1.5GB
Free Hard Drive Space: 16GB
Video Card: 256MB NVidia 7900 / 256MB ATI X1900
DirectX 9 compatible Stereo Sound Card
Keyboard
Mouse


Recommended Hardware Requirements:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz, AMD Phenom X3 2.1Ghz
Memory: 2GB (Windows XP) 2.5GB (Windows Vista)
Free Hard Drive Space: 18GB
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA 8600 / 512MB ATI 3870
DirectX 9 compatible Surround Sound Card
Keyboard
Mouse


Wow first time I seen minimum Hardware Requirements for the game require a dual core. Not sure if most gaming pcs even have that yet. :Q First time I seen recommended Hardware Requirements need a quad core as well.

This is worst than Crysis. I would of never thought this game could of been more demanding than Crysis.
 

legcramp

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May 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: techboie
In India, 4GB of gaming memory from OCZ still costs around $110.

Also, what do you say about this?

Statistics
Average FPS: 24.18
Duration: 37.42 sec
CPU Usage: 91%
System memory usage: 80%
Video memory usage: 100%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (75 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 100
Detail Distance: 100

Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 702-1670-750
Video Driver version: 180.84
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz@3.03 ghz[ram@900MHz cl4-2t]

File ID: benchmark.cli


Wait a minute now.... you listed you had an E7300 cpu and an HD4850 in your original post, and now you have an E2160 with a 8600gt????

What are you embarrass or something and had to up your imaginary specs?

There's people here trying to help you ya know, so doing that just makes you look... I don't know retarded?
 

Oyeve

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Oct 18, 1999
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Originally posted by: techboie
Those specs are of somebody else who posted his benchies. I have a 4850 + E7300

Geez, my system in my sig will never playe GTA4, good thing i have it on the 360. Its crazy that a PC specced WAY above a console cant play this. Shit, when GTA: SA hit the PC it was the same thing but at least there was a noticable graphice improvement. Is that the case with GTA4? Is it noticably better looking than the console versions?
 

Lepard

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Originally posted by: Oyeve
Originally posted by: techboie
Those specs are of somebody else who posted his benchies. I have a 4850 + E7300

Geez, my system in my sig will never playe GTA4, good thing i have it on the 360. Its crazy that a PC specced WAY above a console cant play this. Shit, when GTA: SA hit the PC it was the same thing but at least there was a noticable graphice improvement. Is that the case with GTA4? Is it noticably better looking than the console versions?

Yes, it is... way more options as well. The console versions have details at ~15 or so. This was explained by Rockstar in an IGN interview they did shortly after the release of the PC version.

But yeah, all in all, the PC version looks better and I am running it on all 33's with the system on my sig.