Crappy Apartment Complex, HELP!

marketsons1985

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Hi all,

I need some advice on where to proceed from here. I live in a brand new as of last year apartment complex, where we are provided cable TV and internet through our complex. It's a complex of all college students, so internet at the very least is a necessity.

As of Friday night last week, my entire building (12 apartments) lost our internet connection. After talking with the complex IT guy, I was informed that the construction crew our complex hired had bulldozed our internet line somehow on Friday night. Even better than that is the fact that the company they hired to install our fiber optic lines doesn't have the equipment to splice our broken line then send it to our apartment.

Best yet is the fact that the ground is too frozen and the air too cold (or so they say)for the construction workers to dig a trench to our apartment, even if they had the equipment. So as far as our IT guy knows, we're SOL for our internet until the ground thaws.

Last night I called the complex attempting to contact the property manager and got a sub-manager to return my call today while I was in class. She told me the same things I already knew, and offered no help on getting the issue solved. She said it "wouldn't be a quick fix."

So, although I haven't had a chance to talk to the property manager (she won't be in until later today), it seems as though our complex is aware of the problem and unwilling to help.

In our lease it states that the landlord will provide internet and cable, but two pages later states that we cannot withold rent for a lack of internet. My question is this: aren't they obligated to attempt to fix the issue as soon as possible as they are legally obligated to provide us with internet as per the lease? I realize it was the construction crew that dropped the bomb, but as the employers of the construction crew, don't they have an obligation to try to fix it?

We're all college students in my apartment, and we need to have internet. Can I make them fix this ASAP by stringing a line above ground? Or can I make them pay for another internet line since they said they would in the lease?

/me is infinitely frustrated by a lack of internet at my apartment.

*Cliffs*
-Construction crew bulldozed our internet line
-Complex isn't of much help to try to fix it
-Installation company claims that they can't fix the line until the ground thaws
-Says in lease complex will provide internet, but that we can't withold rent on account of no internet
-Want to make complex fix our internet ASAP or get us a new line from our cable company.
-VERY AGGRAVATED
 
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The clause in the lease is probably to cover their ass from intermittent outages, rather than wide-scale pwnage of a construction nature.

Ask them if they can drop a fresh cable or DSL line in and use that as a holdover, since you have an online course.

Edit - Since your complex seems to have "an IT guy" that has a modicum of intelligence, ask him directly. He might be able to put it in words that the property owners can understand.

- M4H
 

NuroMancer

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Yah. as long as the phone lines are still intact, you can do DSL, and while it may be a bit slow for 12+ people, it will work.
 

marketsons1985

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Well, our phone lines were never activated - we'd have to pay for it through Charter, our Cable provider. But our cable line is still intact, and they run a deal for $15 a month to get 3m down / 768k up that shouldn't be an issue for them to pay for until we get our proper internet back.
 

RagingBITCH

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Um, the apt management hired the crew, they're not their employers.

Best yet is the fact that the ground is too frozen and the air too cold (or so they say)for the construction workers to dig a trench to our apartment, even if they had the equipment. So as far as our IT guy knows, we're SOL for our internet until the ground thaws.

In our lease it states that the landlord will provide internet and cable, but two pages later states that we cannot withold rent for a lack of internet. My question is this: aren't they obligated to attempt to fix the issue as soon as possible as they are legally obligated to provide us with internet as per the lease? I realize it was the construction crew that dropped the bomb, but as the employers of the construction crew, don't they have an obligation to try to fix it?

Define obligation. The apt can take as long as they want, there is no legal obligation to be your bitch and do it asap because you asked them politely. Live at any apt complex and you'll see a wide range in response times to things that need to be fixed.
 

smack Down

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Buy cable internet and include a copy of the bill and deduct that amount from the lease. Tell them if they want their 15 dollars to sue. Oh make sure the cable thing doesn't have some long term contract attached.

Edit Make sure you call them up first and tell them that is what your going to due.
 
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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Tell em you talked to your lawyer. They should start communicating more right after that.

:laugh:

At $15 a month for the cable, I'd advise you to go that route. Ask nicely for a reimbursement, and you'll probably get it.

- M4H
 

spidey07

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Looks like they have an out. They don't have to fix it ASAP. You aren't owed or entitled to anything. If you can get cable, then just go ahead and pay for the service.
 

marketsons1985

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Originally posted by: spidey07
You aren't owed or entitled to anything.

How do you figure? I signed a legally binding contract that said they would provide internet. They're not, and not doing anything about it. I'm not witholding my rent money, I'm just asking them to fix our internet that they said they'd provide. I wouldn't have signed the lease if I wasn't going to be provided with internet.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Looks like they have an out. They don't have to fix it ASAP. You aren't owed or entitled to anything. If you can get cable, then just go ahead and pay for the service.

I would be really surprised if such a clause is valid.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: spidey07
Looks like they have an out. They don't have to fix it ASAP. You aren't owed or entitled to anything. If you can get cable, then just go ahead and pay for the service.

I would be really surprised if such a clause is valid.

meh, all that needs to be said is it will be reparied in a "resonable amount of time." There is no guarantee of service from what I read. None. No entitlements. He doesn't "deserve" internet and it isn't a "right".

A fiber cut is a big deal and can take 8 hours to repair, and if they got the service from "joes ISP" it could easily be a while before it is repaired.



 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: spidey07
Looks like they have an out. They don't have to fix it ASAP. You aren't owed or entitled to anything. If you can get cable, then just go ahead and pay for the service.

I would be really surprised if such a clause is valid.

meh, all that needs to be said is it will be reparied in a "resonable amount of time." There is no guarantee of service from what I read. None. No entitlements. He doesn't "deserve" internet and it isn't a "right".

A fiber cut is a big deal and can take 8 hours to repair, and if they got the service from "joes ISP" it could easily be a while before it is repaired.

His lease states the complex will provided internet so yes he deserve internet he is paying for it.

A few days would be a reasonable amount of time, a few months is not.
 

Leros

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They said they will fix it as soon as possible. Sounds like the ground is too frozen to fix it now, so they will fix it as soon as possible, like they said. Doesn't seem like they are wronging you in anyway.
 

getbush

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I like smack down's idea of getting cable, and just taking it out of your rent and paying them that. They will then keep that charge on your account and at the least deduct it from your security deposit. The only reasonable solution is to do considerable damage to the office when/after you move out. They pissed off 12 units worth of people, you're golden.
 

Gibson486

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You were gonna withhold rent b/c of internet? It's not even their fault. The ground is frozen. What do you want them to do? if you want it so bad, dig up teh ground for them. Otherwise, use the library.
 

getbush

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I bet if you didn't pay your rent on time and when they call and you respond "i'll get it to you sometime soon" they would just say "ok pal I know you're trying"? Fat chance. Come on pookie let's burn this motherfvcker down BURN THIS MOTHERFVCKER DOOWWWNNN

In general I hate places that are all inclusive like this. They just make money off of those services, or go the cheapest possible route, in the end, screwing you. I won't live anywhere where those things are included. When you have your own subscribed services, there is a company that gives a damn if you stay as a customer, and teh service is much better.
 

Falloutboy

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sounds like your in a complex, setup a wifi router and see if any of the tennates in other buildings have an open wifi connection for you to tie into. its not stealing because its the same thing you would be getting anyway
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Buy cable internet and include a copy of the bill and deduct that amount from the lease. Tell them if they want their 15 dollars to sue. Oh make sure the cable thing doesn't have some long term contract attached.

Edit Make sure you call them up first and tell them that is what your going to due.

 

KK

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They should compensate you some way, maybe by dropping your rent x amount of dollars..
 

DefDC

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Originally posted by: Falloutboy
sounds like your in a complex, setup a wifi router and see if any of the tennates in other buildings have an open wifi connection for you to tie into. its not stealing because its the same thing you would be getting anyway

I was going to suggest this. For the cost of a couple of repeaters, they could make a temp fix in 1 hr... Talk to your apts IT guy about this. It'd be handy for them to have that equipment on hand in case of outages in other apt buildings, and the cost is minimum. Definitely better than the wrath of angered tenants...
 

NuroMancer

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: smack Down
Buy cable internet and include a copy of the bill and deduct that amount from the lease. Tell them if they want their 15 dollars to sue. Oh make sure the cable thing doesn't have some long term contract attached.

Edit Make sure you call them up first and tell them that is what your going to due.

This is a bad idea,

Instead, call then up and ask if you get suplimentary internet will they reduce that amount off the rent. Ask nicely.