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crap...just read that there is a new RADAR van cruising my commute

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Our city is in the process of installing red light cameras. For the most part I am fine with this...I can't make a strong case against them anyway.

BUT, today I read in the paper that, as part of the deal, they also signed up a van to cruise the area looking for speeders.

This I do have more of a problem with. For the most part, speeding can be justified by various reasons with little remorse or potential victim if the driver doing so is able and has a suitable vehicle (I like to think I fall in this category). But, having a van floating around acting like mommy with a ray gun is...just...suck.


Anyone here get busted by one of these contraptions?
 
Making a case against red light cameras is extremely easy. It has been shown that intersections with longer yellow lights have fewer accidents. Everything else just falls into place.

As for the van, just watch for a competently driven minivan (almost an oxymoron), and you're likely to be safe.
 
RU482 said:
Our city is in the process of installing red light cameras. For the most part I am fine with this...I can't make a strong case against them anyway.

BUT, today I read in the paper that, as part of the deal, they also signed up a van to cruise the area looking for speeders.

This I do have more of a problem with. For the most part, speeding can be justified by various reasons with little remorse or potential victim if the driver doing so is able and has a suitable vehicle (I like to think I fall in this category). But, having a van floating around acting like mommy with a ray gun is...just...suck.


Anyone here get busted by one of these contraptions?
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What's the difference between a radar van and a regular cop sitting by the side of the road with a radar/laser gun?
 
Wouldn't the Radar vans fall into the same category as the red light cameras? Where if you actually bother to go to court over them they get thrown out because it's still illegal to give tickets that add points to a license unless it's done by a LEO?

I'd have to dig to find it but I sure as hell know one state over (Iowa) you can just go to court and it's thrown out because they're illegal statewide.
 
Get around red light cameras with a monkey mask. See fi the law requires a picture of thd rvier and the plates. Apparently somebody in arizona skipped 39 tickets by driving with a mask on.
 
Saga said:
Wouldn't the Radar vans fall into the same category as the red light cameras? Where if you actually bother to go to court over them they get thrown out because it's still illegal to give tickets that add points to a license unless it's done by a LEO?

I'd have to dig to find it but I sure as hell know one state over (Iowa) you can just go to court and it's thrown out because they're illegal statewide.
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That's why red light camera tickets are a civil fine only, and no points.
 
Saga said:
Wouldn't the Radar vans fall into the same category as the red light cameras? Where if you actually bother to go to court over them they get thrown out because it's still illegal to give tickets that add points to a license unless it's done by a LEO?

I'd have to dig to find it but I sure as hell know one state over (Iowa) you can just go to court and it's thrown out because they're illegal statewide.
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interesting...this is in Cedar Rapids Iowa.
The thing is, we don't have a points system. or at least it's not referred to that way.
 
crazySOB297 said:
1. Find it parked
2. Install GPS locating device
3. Put information on internet
4. ???
5. Profit!
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Molotov.

Or the British tactic of a burning tired filled with gasoline. http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

Fortunately in AZ everyone is against them including the politicians and they are about to become banned soon, so no need to remind them of the spirit of resistance just yet. Napalitano single handedly started the whole camera thing here in Arizona on executive order after some of the companies sold her on the revenue potential. They've cost far far more than they've brought in though. I forget the real numbers, but it was something like spending 100 million to make up to 500 million and they only got 10 million from it. AZ congress was against it when Napalitano set it into motion, the totalitarian bitch.

Sad thing is I'm a fairly responsible driver, but these things make me peel out after I pass them just on general principal.
 
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i picked up an Escort Passport 8500 about 4 years ago and use it everytime I'm driving. Saved my butt numerous times speeding around town.

A good detector like the Escort Passport of Valentine 1 is well worth the money if you like to speed a lot.
 
billyb0b said:
i picked up an Escort Passport 8500 about 4 years ago and use it everytime I'm driving. Saved my butt numerous times speeding around town.

A good detector like the Escort Passport of Valentine 1 is well worth the money if you like to speed a lot.
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Don't forget, that Radar detectors are illegal in some states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_detector

Illegal in all vehicles: Virginia, Washington D.C., U.S. military bases
Illegal in commercial vehicles under state law: Illinois, New York, New Jersey (specifically, commercial vehicles over 10,000 pounds (4,500 kg) and all vehicles over 18,000 pounds (8,200 kg)) Also illegal in all commercial vehicles over 10000 lbs under US federal law
Prohibitions against affixing items to windshield - "obstructing vision"): Minnesota, California[1], New York[20]
 
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