Cracks in the Concorde & thoughts/opinions on crash

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BCinSC

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Hmm. Engine checks that delayed take off and then fuel leaks resulting in engine fire. I've seen this before. Gas station next door to the hardware store I worked at in High School was working on local resident's Pontiac. Left the fuel line disconnected from the carburetor and owner decided he wanted to go for a drive. Gas starts pouring everywhere and sparks from the starter ignite it and big fireball. Owner got out in time, but vehicle was total loss. Did somebody forget to reattach the fuel line to the carburetor on the Concorde? Dude, that sucks.
 

AndyHui

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Yup...saw a photo....looked really bad....like someone firing a massive flame thrower out the back. 130+ people killed....:(
 

GreenGhost

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When the Concorde started flying it became a tourist attraction in some places. I went to the airport just to see it take off at Rio's airport while on vacation there (a friend who was an airline pilot told me I shouldn't miss). Very impressive. The whole airport structure was shaking, blue flames coming out from the engine. Gorgeous.

People would stop by the highway just to see it go.

I'd rather fly a cracked Concorde than any of Northwest's DC-9's...

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nickdakick

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113 people killed
two engines caught fire having been on maintenance the same day, no chance for the pilot. He avoided a bigger catastrophy by changing direction away from a small town nearby. All this happenend beyond the point of no return. All this information I summed up while listening to the latst news over here. :(
 

nickdakick

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Update:
One sole survivor. A student that just arrived in the hotel the Concorde crashed on. She just jumped out of a window in the last second. :)
 

gtbuzz

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let me interject something: as an aerospace engineer, i want to say that is *very* unlikely that the cracks in the airframe had anything to do with the crash. fact of the matter is that cracks in an airframe are not that uncommon and for the most part have no bearing on the airworthiness of the aircraft. i'll have to admit though - the timing of this crash couldn't be worse...

edit: also, only on rare occasions will these cracks even be visible to the naked eye. for instance, when checking for cracks in engine fan blades, they have to use ultrasonic scanners to detect the microscopic cracks. granted those are repared immediately because of the rotational inertia placed on the fan blades, you get the idea.

based on what i've heard so far, it's my guess (and that's all it is) is that some maintance worker made a mistake while repairing the engine (it was serviced just before the flight)
 

NFS4

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Whoah, I just saw the video footage :Q Some truck driver caught about a 10 second clip of the thing on fire just as it took off.

I think that those maintenance workers screwed up big time...
 

BCinSC

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Okay, my theory: They say there was debris on the runway and all along the trajectory. They theorize that a tire blew out and the plane was breaking apart. I disagree. I think the fuel line to engine 2 was either not reconnected after the repair or only finger tightened and came loose. This dumped gallons of fuel out the back and all over the left side landing gear, igniting the tires causing them to disintegrate and leave flaming pieces on the runway as well as damaging the gear which prevent it from retracting. The loss of fuel on that side caused engine 1 to malfunction. Losing both engines on that side caused it to roll. Even if they had made the last mile to the other airport, they would have crashed on landing as well as been a huge fireball while doing it. If they had managed to abort takeoff, they still were likely to explode. Per my edit in the initial message of this thread, I believe this to be human error - literally or figuratively, the fuel cap/line was left off.
 

BCinSC

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Ah, yes, more details coming to light. Afterburner fuel pump also replaced before take off. Anonymous mechanic quoted in Le Parisian stated that if it were to malfunction, it would turn the back of the plane into a real blowtorch. Hmmm.
 

nickdakick

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BCinSC is right according to all the information I have collected. That's the way it all happened.
 

Tiger

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It was reported in the news today that Concorde has always had trouble blowing tires on takeoff and landing. When it has happened in the past there has been damage to fuel lines, hydraulic lines, fuel tanks, landing gear, engines, etc.... It is possible that a blown tire/s or mangled up landing gear caused this.

 

BCinSC

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Actually, the info I read was that only once had a tire blowout occurred that caused damaged. The tire went and the wheel became damaged, sheding metal bits as the gear was retracted, causing substantial damage to the craft.