CPU Upgrade. X2 5000 ---> X4 9850

[Idontcare]

Is it a viable option to buy the Phenom now and keep it on the same mobo by intentionally underclocking the chip to the point that it would be expected to conform with the 95W max for the board?

In other words if the OP did this would his then underclocked Phenom give him better performance than his existing X2 5000?

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: slimjim2005
I wish I did some more research. I would have bought a new mobo + the e8500 =

I already bought the giga byte mobo though. Guess I am stuck with my 5000+

Did you order it from Newegg? You might be able to cancel the order.

Lesson learned, I hope: always do research.

At least you should be able to crank your 5000+ BE up to 3 Ghz or more - you only need to adjust the multiplier in the BIOS.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
ah... Well, I didn't think that an X2 5000 BE even at 3.2 would be enough for Crysis from what I read, but I could be wrong.

Now that I think of it, I doubt very much it's his processor really holding him back that much. I don't like FPS games in general very much, too cookie cutter for me. But, I did install Crysis, just to see what the hype was about, on my old s939 Opteron 165 @ 2.56GHz. I saw no difference between it on my Phenom and my old Opteron with the same video card. Though I have to admit I only ran the actual bench on the Phenom system, but the game *seemed* to play the same on both rigs.

OP, if you lower the settings to low quality, what kind of fps do you get?

If you look at this benchmark at GameSpot you'll see they have an FX60, which is very close to the 5000+BE, just with more L2 cache. It gets way higher fps then what the OP is getting. I think there's something else holding back his system.

 

[Rhoxed]

Originally posted by: Idontcare
Is it a viable option to buy the Phenom now and keep it on the same mobo by intentionally underclocking the chip to the point that it would be expected to conform with the 95W max for the board?

In other words if the OP did this would his then underclocked Phenom give him better performance than his existing X2 5000?

Im not really sure on this, but i dont see why it couldnt be done.

On the other hand, i have a 9550 (2.2, 95W) on a ECS 780GM-A overclocked to 2.8Ghz 1.3Vcore, yet i wouldnt dare try to put my 9850BE in the same mobo, even at stock 2.5Ghz

 

[corsa]

Crysis sees GPU limitation at 1280x1024...

 

[soccerballtux]

you should wait for the 750s.

 

[taltamir]

he was looking at 780G boards, most of which are ALSO limited to 95watts... that means putting a 125watt CPU on it, or ocing, will LITERALLY cause the capacitors to explode.
AFAIK only board of the three he suggested that supports 125 watt CPU is the gigabyte one (I am not sure it is that exact model though)... and it will NOT support more, that means NO OC!
If he wan'ts a phenom he will need a 790 board, not a 780G. (the 780G chipset is the best around, but the mobo makers are skimping on power circuitry because they feel it is a "budget board").

I agree with mark, if he is replacing the CPU + Mobo at the same time, then getting a Q6600 + DS3L mobo will be the best idea right now.
I am UNDERVOLTING my Q6600 while overclocking it to 3.0ghz on a gigabyte EP35-DS3R (the R means raid, meaning i use the intel northbridge variant with 2 extra SATA slots and better raid, i needed the SATA slots. It should OC the same as the L varient, since the OC is dependant on the north bridge... although AMD got a new southbridge that has a direct connection of sorts to the CPU in phenom that somehow makes it OC higher).

But if he wants to get a phenom, then the 780G is a bad choice. Only 790FX.
I don't see why waiting for the 750 southbridge is important. Aside from features maybe. 100mhz extra OC is nothing to write home about, and they will most likely cost too much extra to make it worthwhile.