Cpu upgrade on a BE-6 motherboard

[MetroRider]

My friend has an Abit BE6 (first version) motherboard with a Celeron 366 fcpga cpu (using slot1 adapter). He wants to upgrade to a Celeron 1000 or 1100 cpu. My only question regarding this move is:

1) Can he use his current slotket adapter or does he have to get a new one for these Celeron 1 GHz chips.

2) Can he use the current hs/fan from his Celeron 366 on the new Celeron, or would he be better off just getting a retail Celeron 1 GHz cpu (he does not plan on overclocking his cpu at all).

thanks for your help in advance...

 

[frantadr]

Hi,
1. If the current adapter supports PIII-FCPGA, then can be used for Celeron-FCPGA.
2. The old heatsink can be used. Difference between PPGA and FCPGA is above all in the size of contact surface.

 

[Theslowone]

the celeron didn't go to fcpga until the 533.
The hs may work and may not work(if its just a flat bottom), It seems like I remember having to buy a new heatsink for mine when I upgraded from ppga to fcpga because the die was bigger on the ppga and the heatsink fit flush but witht the fcpga it is smaller and the hs has a tendancy of not fitting flush on the die, unless you buy a shim of some sort.

Not saying it will not work but just saying thats how i remember it.

 

[MetroRider]

thanks for the updates guys.... just something i recall know that you are mentioning. The Celeron 366 that is being used is in the PPGA form, not the FC-PGA form that i original listed it as.

After talking with my friend, he said that going with a retail chip would be better since it would take care of and resolve the hs/fan issue. The only thing left to find out is if this PPGA slotket can support the new FC-PGA celeron or not. If it can, then cool... if not, then i guess i have to go looking after a newer slotket.

thanks again...

 

[Theslowone]

a ppga slotket will not support fcpga without soldering a wire on the slotket, and with the cost of slotkets nowaday I would just pick one up.

 

[MetroRider]

ok, thanks for letting me know. looks like i am now in a market for a slotket. which ones do you guys recommend for going with this fcpga Celeron 1100 chip? please let me know... thanks!

 

[Theslowone]

MSI was what i used, but i can't find them things anywhere now. Abit also had a good one, but I haven't used one in so long I can't give you a good recommendation.

 

[MetroRider]

what would you think of the one listed here at buy.com:

http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10254778

thanks again for keeping me up-to-date

 

[highwire]

Metrorider -

Seems to be identical to the adapter in my following saga.

edit - It is from startech.com. I looked at a large pic there.

 

[highwire]

Just did a successful update to my BH6 - ver 1.01. The slocket - slotket - SSA -(slot to socket adapter - Intel) was a problem. There are nothing but generic out there on Pricewatch, now. So, I got a generic from PCBAY.COM, $5 - quick UPS & $11 shipped, BTW.
It was not quite the generic unit shown on the website, but was the "Super Slotket III", said to be a problem. I was not at all optimistic. I noticed that about 10 .1uFD SMT caps were missing from the cavity inside the socket. ( most likely, for economy, not good)

Well, with bios updated to "SS" , I plugged it in, and to my amazement, the BH6 reported 901 MHz. Whoopee!

I reduced the voltage to 1.6 volts. (forgot it was SPEC'd for 1.75v) and I have since, reduced it to ONE POINT THREE FIVE 1.35 volts (1,35 in German) and it is rock solid! Must have lucked out with a good chip, it is a step 10, FWIW .( steppings used to be a big deal) The heatsink is ice cold - well, ambient + 10F max.

Anyway, I tried 3D with CFS. Shot down many bad guys. It was noticeably smoother with twice the CPU speed. A total success.

Except for one thing. I can't get the power supply back in the computer cabinet! (mid tower)
The Intel fan AND the slotket are a bit too tall to allow the power supply back in the original position. I will need to do some major surgery on the PS box to make it work, But, luckily, I am a whiz at sheet metal. Still, I don't like to butcher things that might be avoided. To bad. A bit of work for .2 inches(5mm). A little lower slotket adapter AND a 60 mm after-market fan could, maybe have got by. In any case, the Intel retail fan is a bit large ~66mm to work even with a little lower slotket.
I'll have a weird one-of-a-kind power supply, but my beloved Abit BH6 will keep on cooking.

PS - As with the old 300/450 celly, my BH6 will NOT go even to 112 MHz FSB, no way. Dunno why, but I am pleased anyhow.

 

[blackhawk]

The slot adaptor has to be specifically for fc-pga and the hs has to have a flat bottom. If its stepped like the GW, then you have to mill it down or get a new one.

I put a celeron 900 running at 1200/133fsb on my BX mb. The vid cards handled the agp overclock okay, asus 6800 & V5500. That was a great overclocker.

 

[WT]

Check this post for a very good slotket:
MSI 6905 Slotket

There are enough responses and info in the thread that you should be OK. I have my slotket running a 566@850 from the seller and was very pleased with the price and service.

 

[MetroRider]

so the slotket offered at buy.com won't work? the reason i ask is that even though it calls it a PPGA slotket, i was reading its tech specs at the Startech.com website and here is what it listed it could do:

Specifications:
Voltage Settings: Auto-detected from motherboard
CPUs Supported: Intel Celeron, Intel Pentium III FC-PGA Coppermine, Cyrix Joshua
Socket: Intel Socket 370
Slot: Intel Slot 1

now if it can do the p3 fc-pga coppermines, wouldn't it be able to handle the fc-pga celerons?

again, thx for all ur input and suggestions...

 

[HornEEE]

<< now if it can do the p3 fc-pga coppermines, wouldn't it be able to handle the fc-pga celerons? >>



You got that right!

It will work with all Coppermine core Celerons, but not with the newer Tualatin core Celerons - which use the FCPGA-S socket. Do not mistake these 2 - Tualatins and Coppermine core chips!
As long as the CPU is FCPGA then it will work without any hitch.

 

[MetroRider]

my thoughts exactly, seeing that i want to get the Celeron 1100 that has 128k cache, so it would NOT be a Tualatin core cpu. just want to see if others agree with our conclusion...

 

[cheetoden]

I've got a P3 700e @ 933mhz rock solid in my BE6 ver.1.0. You shouldn't have any problems

 

[rcraig]

The manual for the Startech slotket looks like a scan of the
front and back of the package. It uses the product code
ppga2slot1 but has the title Intel FC-PGA to Slot 1 adapter
card.

Link

I have a BX6r2 with a cely300a@450. I've been looking for a good
slotket and will probably get a cely 900 retail from newegg.

Anyone bought this and used it? for $14 shipped, it's a good deal.

 

[highwire]

rcraig -

The slocket I bought from PCBAY.COM was indentical to the unit a startech.com & buy.com ( a very good large pic of it at startech )
It was $5 + shipping, $11 total and fast service. It works great with the BH6 and 900 celeon, just a bit tall for my case.