cpu running @ 51c after ZALMAN CNPS7000A-Cu Pure installation

[MeSh1]

Any ideas? it was running like at 44-45 w/ the intel stock hs/f and when i installed the salman the damn thing is now as i type this message @ 50. Anyone else having any issues? I even used as5 high density polysynthetic silver thermal compoutn. Help please. Thanks in advance, cheers

 

[alexXx]

i would make sure the fan is spinning(also take it off silent mode) and if those dont help, then you installed it incorrectly and should go it again

 

[Degrador]

Are you sure you installed the AS5 right? You know not to use the whole tube, and only a very small amount?

 

[MeSh1]

Yeah, i just spread a thin layer on the chip like the instructions indicate, and the fan is spinning by the way and its cranked all teh way up. How hot should the coppper get on the h/s? becuase when i touch it, it isnt that hot. Any other ideas, i might just try taking off and putting it back on. Also thanks for the help.

 

[OMG1Penguin]

50 isnt that bad, but the zalmans are pretty sensitive to overall airflow since they are copper. That heatsink has incredible dissipation. Make sure you used enough thermal goo~

 

[MeSh1]

I hopin thats it. How do most people apply goo anyways? I typically spread a thin layer on the chip, but a lot of people just put a bb size dot on the chip and jsut mount the hs/f

 

[pirred908]

Put a drop of the AS5 on the chip and on the HS. Spread it paper thin and then reposition the HS. Make sure you clean off the old compund really well. I also suggest useing aseton to clean the chip and HS surfaces, where they touch. Good Luck.

 

[LongCoolMother]

im running the exact same heatsink on a 2.4GHz P4. its idling at 31C. i dont know how it could be 50C, thats very unreasonable. i used the provided thermal compound. perhaps it works better for this HS than AS5?

 

[Degrador]

Originally posted by: OMG1Penguin
50 isnt that bad, but the zalmans are pretty sensitive to overall airflow since they are copper. That heatsink has incredible dissipation. Make sure you used enough thermal goo~

Used enough?? The biggest problem is people using way too much, but discussed that anyway. Please would people read the threads before posting?

(Hmm... Let's think through the logic of my comments here, the only people who will read this message are the ones who already do read the thread... Hmm... I might just hit that "Reply to Topic" button anyway and stop typing to myself......)

 

[MeSh1]

Well i reinstalled it yesterday and im still getting the hight temps. ATM im waiting on the panaflo fans and a arctic silencer for my video card, i hope this makes a difference. Im going try an reinstall it one last time to night and if i still get the high temps ill just return the item back to frys and get a differnet one. Can anyone recommend another good hs/f? I know the zalman is a superb one, but i had no luck w/ it. Any recommendations would be greaetly appreciated. Thanks again.

Note: I dit not use too much goo becuase i followed the instructions exactly on AS's website.

 

[Squirtle632]

Something is NOT right.

I am encoding a DVD on a p4 2.8 and I am only at 46°C with a room temp of 28°C

Make sure the heatsink is on right. Those can be a pain in the @ss to mount. Also try SLIGHTLY bending the tabs on the heatsink UPWARD a small bit to increase tension. I am NOT responsible for you crushing your CPU. I did it to mine and got a tighter fit on it.

The easiest way to install a ZAlman is to tighten one side by 3 turns of the screwdriver and then do the same to the other side. Keep alternating back and forth.

 

[MrK6]

Did you guys ever think that his mobo is giving the wrong temps? Don't suggest odd ball stuff without covering the basics. MeSh1, don't pay attention to BIOS/Software/etc. temps. I've built over 30 comps with all kinds of mobos and CPU's, and not one of them has been accurate. If the heatsink isn't even warm to the touch and you're using AS5, then it's doing a damn good job of cooling, case closed. Don't worry about it at all, temps mean jacks***.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: MrK6
Did you guys ever think that his mobo is giving the wrong temps? Don't suggest odd ball stuff without covering the basics. MeSh1, don't pay attention to BIOS/Software/etc. temps. I've built over 30 comps with all kinds of mobos and CPU's, and not one of them has been accurate. If the heatsink isn't even warm to the touch and you're using AS5, then it's doing a damn good job of cooling, case closed. Don't worry about it at all, temps mean jacks***.

I would agree that motherboard make up wacky temperatures. Mine reads around 18C higher than actual. But this Zalman is reading that much hotter than his old intel heatsink. It's relative. So something actually must be wrong with the install.

 

[MeSh1]

Ok, so heres what i did. I came home and took everything out and instlled my intake and exhaust fans. I then did my best to hide the cables to get the best airflow. I did a ghetto job w/ tape but this is just for testing perpuses so its ok. I reinstalled the zalman after doing all of this and my temps according to sandra are 42-43 although one thing i notice is that when my room is hot thats when the temps go up and when they go down temps go down. Anyways i lowered my temps, but i still think the zalman should do a better job but what the hell, maybe ill return it and get a differnet hs/f. My question is, how do i measure load temps? can someon point me in the right direction? Thanks to all, an ill post anything else i do. Oh yeah, thanks to all for their post i really do appreciate it


Note: Also my "Borad Temperature" is reading 55-57c. Is taht typical or high? If its high, any idea what
can cause this?

Update: Ok my board temps have dropped to like 30c and is now normal. ATM im using TMPGEnc to encode a movie and my cpu temp right now is 58-59.8c @ load. That dangerous? I would say no since its at load right? Anyways Im about to head out and will be back in 1hr or so. Please post what ya'll think. Peace and thanks again.

 

[Degrador]

Those temps aren't dangerous. Do you know what the ambient room temps are? 'Cause if your idle temps are 10 degrees or so above that, then the zalman is doing its job fine. Besides, idle temps don't give you much of an indication as to how good a heatsink is, the load temps give a much better idea. And yes, MrK8 is right about motherboards reporting all sorts of weird temps for cpu. Once I had my motherboard telling me my idle temps were below room temps (note, this is impossible with air cooling). However, they do give a good relative comparison (ie, you can make sure that your brand new heatsink is at least doing a better job than stock, which yours is it seems).

 

[MeSh1]

Originally posted by: Squirtle632
Something is NOT right.

I am encoding a DVD on a p4 2.8 and I am only at 46°C with a room temp of 28°C

Make sure the heatsink is on right. Those can be a pain in the @ss to mount. Also try SLIGHTLY bending the tabs on the heatsink UPWARD a small bit to increase tension. I am NOT responsible for you crushing your CPU. I did it to mine and got a tighter fit on it.

The easiest way to install a ZAlman is to tighten one side by 3 turns of the screwdriver and then do the same to the other side. Keep alternating back and forth.

Bending up upwards? You mean towards the inside of the heatsink? Im not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate so that i can give it a shot. Degrador youre probably right at idle i have to touch the hs w/ a sensitive part of my hand to really fell teh heat and at load it get warmer, but that really that hot.

 

[Squirtle632]

Pull up on the tabs towards the fan. VERY GENTLY. Not too much pressure

 

[toneman]

First-timer here--dunno what to add to what has already been mentioned, but...FWIW my setup is a P4-3.2c overclocked to 3.52 GHz, same Zalman HSF as yours, AS5, 2 generic intake and 2 exhaust fans (all 80mm)...and CPU idles at 38C with ambient room temp at least 29C.

 

[MeSh1]

Hey guys thanks for posting. I have 1 intake 1 exhaust both 80mm panaflor high. Im thinkning it might be the temperature in myu room becaus during the summer its a damn sonna in there. But during the winter the the freakin tundra. Oh well, i gues ill OC during the winter

Squirtle632 thanks for the reply, ill try that as soon as i get. After I install my Arctic colling vga silencer . By the way, i just posetd this, but is it safe to use AS5 instead of teh goo that came w/ the vga cooler?

 

[toneman]

Originally posted by: MeSh1...After I install my Arctic colling vga silencer . By the way, i just posetd this, but is it safe to use AS5 instead of teh goo that came w/ the vga cooler?

I used the AS5 w/ the VGA Silencer on my 9800 Pro--no problems so far, although I can't really say as to what the temp is on the card since it doesn't have a temp probe...

 

[ku]

That's very awkward. I would go back and retrace all the steps to installing your heatsink. As for the AS5 application, try this: put a small, bb-sized amount on the core and take a sandwich bag or something of that sort, put your hand in, and use your finger to spread it out. Once it's all evenly distributed, try putting it back on. Remember to not move the heatsink once it touched the CPU core because that might ruin the AS5 application and make it uneven. Remember to clean the CPU and HS really well with some acetone or 90%+ isopropyl alcohol. Don't use napkins or paper towels as they can leave little white dust thingys... instead, try using a soft cloth that doesn't have any lint.

The point of AS5 is to put as thin a layer as possible. It's just there to help transfer heat between the nooks and crannies of the heatsink base.

Another thing, YOUR HEATSINK SHOULD BE WARM. If your cpu temp is 50C+ and your heatsink is not that hot, it means that something is wrong. It means that heat is not transferring correctly from the CPU to the heatsink. I know you guys can say temperature monitors can be off, but if it was 45C w/ stock (which sounds about right) and 50C with the zalman which is proven to be a far superior heatsink, and in addition to that, the heatsink is not hot, it means that heat is not being transferred correctly.

 

[Travis6586]

Like others have said, clean the top of the processor and the copper heatsink with acetone. Use the acetone to clean the surfaces by using a cue-tip. Be sure and DON'T touch either the top of the processor or the copper heatsink after you've cleaned it, because oil from your fingers can be absorbed into the metal and cause the Arctic Silver 5 to not work very well. Put a BB-size dot of Arctic Silver 5 on the top of the processor and then tighten the Zalman down. Make sure you get a very tight fit, as your heatsink has to make good contact with the top of the CPU. I have the same heatsink as you (pure copper Zalman) and have a 3.0C Pentium 4. It idles at 29-32C and under full load peaks out at 42C. Something is definately wrong with your heatsink.

 

[Mik3y]

room temp and airflow has a lot to do with cpu and system temp. make sure the air flow is great and perhaps your room is warm and is causing the cpu to heat up.