CPU Retro-Test (PCgameshardware)

[Spjut]

The Athlon 64 X2 6400+ vs the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 955 in modern games:biggrin:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-H...lon-64-X2-6400-Pentium-4-EE-955-Test-1115495/

 

[crashtech]

Ah, the good old days of Netburst. I was all AMD for quite a few years, from around '02 until around '07 or so. Only owned one Netburst CPU, it was a dog.

 

[toyota]

Lol and those are dual core cpus. heck the P4 is dual core with HT for 4 threads. just imagine the single core P4 and single core A64.

 

[jpiniero]

Max details? Poor CPUs. Could have at least tried it with min details.

 

[Maximilian]

I always thought those pentium EE's were trash lol.

 

[DrMrLordX]

At least it's a Presler, and not a Smithfield. Ugh.

 

[SPBHM]

but, but you can overclock the pentium easily up to 4.2+GHz and the Athlon is going to have a hard time going over 3.4Ghz! :biggrin:
oh yes, K8 was much nicer than netburst.



BF4 single player at 20fps
needs a lot of mantle I think!

 

[MrRamon]

Pffft I still use a AMD FX-55.

 

[Arkaign]

P4 was competitive up to the A64 3200+ really, but the 3500+ and beyond just started to leave em behind.

 

[Headfoot]

I want to see it with Mantle. Talk about best case scenario...

I actually do have a working Athlon X2 6000+ and a 290, I think I've even got an AM2 board and some DDR2 laying around too. I could put it together for funsies... hmmmm

 

[videogames101]

Still miss my 3700+, that chip took so much shit from me - it was my first CPU and the one I learned to OC on...

 

[exar333]

P4 was competitive up to the A64 3200+ really, but the 3500+ and beyond just started to leave em behind.

True. I remember my Winchester 3200+ that ran great at 2.6ghz. That smoked the P4 in everything I did at the time (gaming and so forth) and I bought it right after release for like $150. What a fantastic CPU.

 

[Blitzvogel]

I miss the old days............

5600+ Windsor was the CPU I bought for my first computer build in early 2007.

 

[NTMBK]

I wish they had tested one of those "Pentium M on a desktop board" setup- THAT would be an interesting comparison!

 

[Leyawiin]

I dropped off an Athlon X2 6400+, some DDR2 RAM and an AM2 motherboard at an e-cycling place just last month. Gotta stop hoarding old hardware I'll never use (and they aren't worth the trouble of selling).

 

[Blitzvogel]

I dropped off an Athlon X2 6400+, some DDR2 RAM and an AM2 motherboard at an e-cycling place just last month. Gotta stop hoarding old hardware I'll never use (and they aren't worth the trouble of selling).

Shoulda kept it around as an XP retro machine :thumbsdown:

 

[OCGuy]

All I can will say about this is :biggrin:

 

[SPBHM]

Shoulda kept it around as an XP retro machine :thumbsdown:

yes, 3.2GHz dual core k8 is fast for XP era,
I still have one 2.4GHz dual core k8 being used everyday with windows 8.1 for basic tasks and is not as bad as some might think, 2x the cache and 800MHz should make it pretty fast compared to that...

trouble is, it sucks a lot of power and it's old, cheapest new celeron is clearly faster with less than half the power needed and more reliable... so it would make sense to, well, throw it away, but, it makes me sad :biggrin:

but I enjoy my old hardware and would love to play around with the fastest K8, which is not the case for everyone.

 

[lamedude]

A 3.2GH IMC, a feat AMD has been unable to attain since K8. I'm looking at you stuck 2GHZ uncore.

 

[Leyawiin]

Shoulda kept it around as an XP retro machine :thumbsdown:

That kind of thinking is what's kept my closet full of upgrade orphans for years. I have three perfectly good PCs in my home running Win 7 - don't need to bring back antiquated hardware from the dead with an OS that's run its course.

 

[DrMrLordX]

A 3.2GH IMC, a feat AMD has been unable to attain since K8. I'm looking at you stuck 2GHZ uncore.

Actually, it may have been running at 3 ghz. I recall that many K8 chips had an IMC pegged at 200 mhz lower than the core clocks. Still, that is a very high default speed compared to modern AMD NB speeds. I got the NBs on a Propus and Sargas stable at around 2800-2900 mhz, but that was overclocking, and they aren't modern.

That being said, it is my understanding that the modern AMD IMCs "do more stuff", which is more-or-less true. I can't say that I'm terribly pleased by those developments, nor am I pleased that AMD has failed to include "bus locks" (or the equivalent) on their newer APUs so you can isolate IMC/L3 cache clockspeeds from other stuff that doesn't need to be overclocked. Allegedly, it is nearly impossible to push the NB on a Kaveri past 2000 mhz, and you can't push past 105 mhz BCLK (what happened to HTT?) thanks to the on-die SATA controller, even in IDE mode.