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CPU, Hmmm... which 1, 3200+ or 3000+

eXx08

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Which one is a better bang for my buck 3200+ or 3000+

I wont be O'cing either
I could use the other 50 bucks for a better GPU
 

Powermoloch

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3000 "venice" will do great for you. Lots of users in this forums are having a heck of fun OC to 2.7 ghz
 

BigCoolJesus

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Originally posted by: Powermoloch
3000 "venice" will do great for you. Lots of users in this forums are having a heck of fun OC to 2.7 ghz

honestly, why cant people pick up on a users request

If someone says they wont be overclocking, why would you reccomend something that overclocks well, and then i bet now your gonna try to talk him into overclocking?


to answer the OP, if your getting a 6800GT (or an X800XL), then a 3000+ will do just fine in gaming, but if your planning on getting a 7800GT or 7800GTX, then you can get a bottleneck in the 3000+, so id reccomend the 3200+

basically, the 3000+ is the better choice unless your getting a 7800 series video card
 

eXx08

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I will porbably be getting a 6800GT, but may end up upgrading, but then again if I update GPU the I will update CPU
 

Powermoloch

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Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
3000 "venice" will do great for you. Lots of users in this forums are having a heck of fun OC to 2.7 ghz

honestly, why cant people pick up on a users request

If someone says they wont be overclocking, why would you reccomend something that overclocks well, and then i bet now your gonna try to talk him into overclocking?


to answer the OP, if your getting a 6800GT (or an X800XL), then a 3000+ will do just fine in gaming, but if your planning on getting a 7800GT or 7800GTX, then you can get a bottleneck in the 3000+, so id reccomend the 3200+

basically, the 3000+ is the better choice unless your getting a 7800 series video card

Did I recommended him for oc? did I really said that?no not really, but I'm just pointing it out that the 3000+ venice is highly reliable and proved to be popular.

 

BigCoolJesus

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Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
3000 "venice" will do great for you. Lots of users in this forums are having a heck of fun OC to 2.7 ghz

honestly, why cant people pick up on a users request

If someone says they wont be overclocking, why would you reccomend something that overclocks well, and then i bet now your gonna try to talk him into overclocking?


to answer the OP, if your getting a 6800GT (or an X800XL), then a 3000+ will do just fine in gaming, but if your planning on getting a 7800GT or 7800GTX, then you can get a bottleneck in the 3000+, so id reccomend the 3200+

basically, the 3000+ is the better choice unless your getting a 7800 series video card

Did I recommended him for oc? did I really said that?no not really, but I'm just pointing it out that the 3000+ venice is highly reliable and proved to be popular.


No, all you pointed out was it overclocks high........


and back to the question, if you plan on upgrading the 6800GT, id get the 3200+ just for the comfort zone of 2.0GHz
 

t3h l337 n3wb

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Honestly though, why don't you overclock? I don't see any good reasons not to... Personally though, I would also recommend the 3200+ Venice. It's a pretty good bang for your buck. Newegg has some combo deals with it right now too.
 

bigpow

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different people different requirement, that's why
I'd go with 3000+ & one of those silent HSF
 

eXx08

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Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
Honestly though, why don't you overclock? I don't see any good reasons not to... Personally though, I would also recommend the 3200+ Venice. It's a pretty good bang for your buck. Newegg has some combo deals with it right now too.

I don't overclock because I don't know how to. Plus I am getting a nice PC and I know the consequences and I'm not willing to take a chance with this.
 

biostud

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Originally posted by: thekillerjks
Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
Honestly though, why don't you overclock? I don't see any good reasons not to... Personally though, I would also recommend the 3200+ Venice. It's a pretty good bang for your buck. Newegg has some combo deals with it right now too.

I don't overclock because I don't know how to. Plus I am getting a nice PC and I know the consequences and I'm not willing to take a chance with this.

even with a very conservative overclock you could get the 3000+ running same speed as 3200+ or a 3500+.
But if you're not going to I would get the 3200+. or even better the 3500+
 
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Originally posted by: Hacp
3200+. FOr 20 more bucks, you can get 3500+.

Wouldn't that make the 3200+ a bad bang for your buck then?

Here's how I see it:

The 3000+ is about $40 cheaper than the 3200+, but offers 95% of the performance. So for 75% of the price you get 95% performance. Then, take into the fact that a 3200+ is no different from the 3000 other than having a slightly higher multiplier unlocked, meaning there's almost no chance of harming one by giving it a 200 or 400 Mhz overclock. Why pay extra money for the same chip?

The only way I could see getting a 3200 over a 3000 is if you were aiming for a high overclock and wanted to match bus speeds, where the x10 multiplier would be helpful. Otherwise, the 3200 is, in my opinion, a relatively poor bang for your buck chip.

When you consider how incredibly easy it is to get even a pretty decent overclock with these chips, and how pretty much any motherboard worth owning will allow you to get at least 200Mhz extra, it just makes sense to do that, at least to me. You don't even have to mess with voltages, as I know a lot of chips hit 2.0-2.2 on stock voltages, most will even do higher. You don't need performance RAM (run buses asynchronously), you don't need a super duper power supply (barely any extra power consumption), and you don't need special cooling (there are quite a bit of people who hit high overclocks on the stock cooler).

Seriously, save your $40 and put it towards a better video card or something that will be better (say a nicer monitor, maybe a nice mouse or better speakers).

I can understand you not wanting to overclock, but it is seriously incredibly easy with these chips and motherboards, and there's a wealth of information and people to help you do it here on AT.
 

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OP, you should really look into overclocking, it will allow you to turn the 3000+ into the equal of a FX-53 (basically). Since you aren't going to be overclocking I would for sure go with the 3200+.