Couple buys Ford Windstar "new" w/5 miles on the odo...

[NFS4]

That's fugged up :Q

 

[brunswickite]

I think they bought the Windstar, not the expedition

 

[Syringer]

I'd buy that for a dollar.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: brunswickite
I think they bought the Windstar, not the expedition

Ha, I clicked on the thread title, read the article where it said Windstar and thoght I was going insane or something having originally read it as Expedition.

 

[waggy]

ohh thats bad. that dealership is in a LOT of trouble.

 

[Wheatmaster]

haha i pass that dealer once in a while.

 

[Eli]

That's crooked as hell.

I hope they nail the dealer.

 

[Brutuskend]

Typical car dealership.

I have NEVER, nor WILL I ever buy a car from any dealership...

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Eli
That's crooked as hell.

I hope they nail the dealer.

yeah they will.

That is a bad bad crime. not only did they do it they tried to cover it up. they did a pretty crappy job at covering it up also.

they made a LOT of mistakes. not only rolling back the odometer but trying to get the guy to lie about it. heh they are going to be in real deap crap soon.

even possible that they lose there license

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Typical car dealership.

I have NEVER, nor WILL I ever buy a car from any dealership...

now now.

NOT all dealerships are this way. We never treat anyone like this. or even close to it.

but then again we are a small used dealership. word of mouth is oure best advertising.

 

[classy]

Man that is messed up. Can you say a free vehicle will be in the works.

 

[TitanDiddly]

I hate car dealerships. I'm moving to Ireland.

 

[thomsbrain]

ewwwww

 

[Amorphus]

Couple says van billed as new once carried corpses
By Rob Olmstead Daily Herald Staff Writer
Posted 7/20/2004

When Nancy C. Comita and Donald F. Comita drove their 2003 Ford Windstar off the dealer's lot, they likely knew from specs on the van that it sat seven comfortably.

What the Northwest suburban couple didn't know, a lawsuit filed last week alleges, was that this particular Windstar had previously accommodated eight.

Eight corpses, that is.

The Niles couple's suit alleges that Golf Mill Ford in Niles rolled back the odometer on the van after it was returned by the previous owner, a funeral director.

The funeral director, who does not know the Comitas or stand to benefit financially from the lawsuit, told the Daily Herald he put at least 1,500 miles on the van and eight bodies in it after retrofitting it by removing the back seats and putting in a carpeted platform.

The Illinois secretary of state's office has turned the matter over to its police department for investigation.

Golf Mill Ford did not return repeated phone calls over several days. Lawyers for Golf Mill Ford either did not return phone calls or declined comment. A spokesman at Ford Motor Headquarters in Michigan also declined to comment.

The previous use of the van was discovered, said the Comitas' lawyer, Martin Y. Joseph of Chicago, when the Comitas applied to the secretary of state's office for the title.

They were told, the suit alleges and the secretary of state's office confirms, that the office already had received an application for the title from a Chicago funeral director.

That funeral director confirmed that he bought a van with the same vehicle identification number on Feb. 27, 2003, and returned it - without the carpeted platform - about two weeks later with more than 1,500 miles on it.

"I did take possession of it. I drove it off the lot," he said in a phone interview.

The Comitas bought their van - with a matching vehicle identification number and an odometer reading of 5 miles - for about $25,000 on Nov. 12, 2003.

The funeral director said he returned the van in mid-April of 2003 because he was in the middle of bankruptcy proceedings and the bankruptcy court wasn't going to let him keep the vehicle.

He said he was able to return the van and get his full down payment back. The funeral director spoke on the condition that his name not be used because he is embarrassed about his bankruptcy, which court records show was filed March 31, 2003.

When the Comitas got the letter from the state, they called the funeral director thinking it must be a mistake and found out about the previous use, said Joseph.

Beth Kaufman, a spokeswoman for the secretary of state's office, said Golf Mill Ford contacted the state to try to get a new title for the vehicle.

"In March of 2003, we issued what is called a 'C of O,' which is a certificate of origin to (the funeral director)," said Kaufman. "Then on 12/4/03, we get a request for a duplicate C of O for that car, the Windstar, which the dealership tells us that it's (the title) been lost at the dealership. And so we send them back correspondence saying no, it's not lost, we already have a title issued from this C of O."

In a letter dated March 31, a Golf Mill Ford office manager wrote a letter to the state saying the dealership had titled the van by accident, Kaufman said.

The state wrote back, telling the dealership that it would have to get a signed affidavit from the funeral director, affirming that he had never taken the van, Kaufman said.

The funeral director told the Daily Herald that the dealership contacted him and told him it was having problems with the title and that it needed him to sign a paper saying he no longer had the Windstar. He agreed.

But what it sent him was a two-sentence letter dated June 14, 2004, that read, "I ... did not take possession of the 2003 Ford Windstar with (VIN #). Nor did I take possession of any vehicle at Golf Mill Ford," the funeral director said.

He refused to sign.

"As I see it," said Joseph in a letter to the dealership, "my clients have paid dearly for a vehicle which they believed to be new, but in fact was used. Additionally, my clients ... suffered great mental anguish once they found out what their van was used for prior to their purchase of it."

Joseph said the Comitas still have the van and he's trying to negotiate a settlement with Golf Mill Ford, but the dealer has refused.

Van: Secretary of state's police are investigating

Because the site is slow

 

[Thraxen]

I have NEVER, nor WILL I ever buy a car from any dealership...

Where do you buy from then? If you buy from another person didn't they originally buy from a dealership? Build your own?

 

[djheater]

Well I would say that's what Carfax is for, but if the title was never actually GIVEN, then I wounder if carfax would have known about it...

I would have bought it NO PROBLEM if they had made me a good deal on it. I've got no beef with corpses.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Ford, quality is job 35082084223.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: djheater
Well I would say that's what Carfax is for, but if the title was never actually GIVEN, then I wounder if carfax would have known about it...

I would have bought it NO PROBLEM if they had made me a good deal on it. I've got no beef with corpses.

As long as your "beef" isn't IN corpses, we're fine here

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: djheater
Well I would say that's what Carfax is for, but if the title was never actually GIVEN, then I wounder if carfax would have known about it...

I would have bought it NO PROBLEM if they had made me a good deal on it. I've got no beef with corpses.

As long as your "beef" isn't IN corpses, we're fine here

Oh my...

oh my, oh my....


If that van's a rocking break out the napalm. ZOMBIES!

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: waggy
ohh thats bad. that dealership is in a LOT of trouble.

damn straight. i hope they get shut down. rolling back odometers? sleazy as$ motherfvckers.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Ford, quality is job 35082084223.

yeah since this is all ford's fault and not the slimy dealer

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: classy
Man that is messed up. Can you say a free vehicle will be in the works.

Can you say that the Manager will be out of a job soon, a high paying job that is.

 

[Anubis]

wow thats messed up

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

I have NEVER, nor WILL I ever buy a car from any dealership...

Where do you buy from then? If you buy from another person didn't they originally buy from a dealership? Build your own?

Used cars from private parties.
Yeah, the original owner bought it from a dealer more than likely. So all the screwing happened to THEM, not ME!

Many years ago I hurt myself and couldn't do my normal type of work (mechanic), for about a year I sold cars. I never made ANY money at it because I tried to be honest! Didn't matter, people still thought I was the scum of the earth. I finally quit because I couldn't feel good about what I was doing for a living.

I suppose not ALL car salesmen/dealerships are evil, but from what I saw, the vast majority ARE.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: Thraxen

I have NEVER, nor WILL I ever buy a car from any dealership...

Where do you buy from then? If you buy from another person didn't they originally buy from a dealership? Build your own?

Used cars from private parties.
Yeah, the orignal owner bought it from a dealer more than likely. So all the screwing happend to THEM, not ME!

you take as big a risk buying from a private parties.