"Country First or Obama First"

jonks

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Story here:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2...-first-or-obama-first/


Looks like McCain has more or less given up on reasonable arguments, not that he made many to begin with. But his latest slogan is the culmination of the republican standard character assassination of democrats, or anyone else who disagrees with the way they think the country should be run. When they run out of something to say, they attack their opponent's patriotism. Only thing is, there's a couple problems.

1. Sarah Palin

- McCain acknowledged he was older (read: oldest) than the usual presidential candidates and so had promised to take great consideration to pick someone as VP who would be ready to lead this country through this dangerous time of worldwide war and financial upheaval, someone who would be ready on day one. Instead, facing sinking polls, an unenthusiastic base, and an opponent more popular than jesus, he picked Miss Alaska runner up. The move energized the base and breathed life into his frail, and frankly, boring campaign. Yet Palin is about the most inexperienced person ever selected for VP, has demonstrated no intellectual or policy prowess, and already there are many wondering if she was such a good idea after all. McCain's first major chance to show that he would put the country first by selecting someone ready and able to be president, and he flubbed it by picking a pretty face who hates abortions. That's not putting your country first, my friends.

2. Socialism

- That's right, I said it. "Country First!" ? McCain is telling people to put their country ahead of their own needs, to sacrifice their own priorities for the sake of the greater good. He says Obama is not putting country first, and is therefore not thinking about the greater good. That he is able to make this claim with a straight face while referring to Obama as the most liberal dem in history is pretty ballsy.

It's pretty clear that McCain is thinking "5 weeks, 5 weeks...gotta start throwing the kitchen sink at this one boys! Lie, scramble, attack! Do whatever you have to do!"

I don't know who will win this thing, but if McCain wins, Obama will go back to the Senate, and maintain or increase whatever level of respect people currently have for him, and likely go on to be a leader and strong voice in the party. He's run a strong but fair campaign, and reset the standard for grass roots internet based contribution movements. But I can't imagine that in the case Obama wins, that McCain will come out of this thing with any integrity left. Maybe McCain figures that if he wins, well, the victors write the history books; and if he loses, well, he's old so he won't have to live with his destroyed reputation for very long. But it is sad to see someone fall so low.
 

Vic

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Yep, McCain's latest lies are just over the top. The few political ads he runs here in Portland are almost laughable in their blatant falsehoods.
 

Mani

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Desperation move. And pretty hypocritical given that McCain has shown he is willing to do anything to win this election.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Mani
Desperation move. And pretty hypocritical given that McCain has shown he is willing to do anything to win this election.
No, he's not. He's unwilling to tell the truth. If he were, he'd put country first and concede the election to a team with better ideas than his tired, failed policies of the past and enough brains to have some chance of succeeding at carrying them out.

McCain couldn't keep his Double Talk Express on track if it had training wheels.

The only thing Palin knows how to put first is Palin. She's good at the lying and corruption part of being a politician, but she's too lost in her brain dead fundy ozone to know what reality is, let alone how to deal with it.
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Mani
Desperation move. And pretty hypocritical given that McCain has shown he is willing to do anything to win this election.
No, he's not. He's unwilling to tell the truth. If he were, he'd put country first and concede the election to a team with better ideas than his tired, failed policies of the past and enough brains to have some chance of succeeding at carrying them out.

McCain couldn't keep his Double Talk Express on track if it had training wheels.

The only thing Palin knows how to put first is Palin. She's good at the lying and corruption part of being a politician, but she's too lost in her brain dead fundy ozone to know what reality is, let alone how to deal with it.
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While I cannot disagree with what Harvey says on any intellectual level, looking at it from the chess player be able to understand what your opponent can best be effective in doing, the Palin pick has been a brilliant tactical move on the part of McCain.

And now in one brilliant move by McCain, McCain has repaired all his weaknesses
with his own Republican base, has fired up his troops from ho hum demoralized to energized, and to disagree with Harvey, Palin understands her role and will put McCain first, to the best of her however limited ability.

Denial is not my strong suit, the allegation that McCain couldn't keep his Double Talk Express on track if it had training wheels, is quite apparently no longer any concern to McCain, McCain has run on image all his life, and could now win POTUS in 2008.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. But subsequent events are what will best discredit McSame.



 

NoStateofMind

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"Double Talk Express" LMAO

Surging down the yellow brick road to nowhere gloating about the strong fundamental economy when he cannot count the number of houses he owns.

McCain is such a tool.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The only thing worse is someone who believes anything Obama says.
Well at least according to a tree swinger such as yourself.
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The only thing worse is someone who believes anything Obama says.

Shhh..the girls are trying to keep their psychotic shells intact. Concentration is one function that supports a hypnotic trance. Some want to keep telling themselves BO is not a Marxist hack with plans to perv out 5 yr olds and show more favor to enemies than his own country. BO wants to be our Chavez and its pretty obvious he is a bad person.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The only thing worse is someone who believes anything Obama says.

Shhh..the girls are trying to keep their psychotic shells intact. Concentration is one function that supports a hypnotic trance. Some want to keep telling themselves BO is not a Marxist hack with plans to perv out 5 yr olds and show more favor to enemies than his own country. BO wants to be our Chavez and its pretty obvious he is a bad person.







Honestly, how many times do your lies have to be exposed before you just shut up?

 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The only thing worse is someone who believes anything Obama says.

Shhh..the girls are trying to keep their psychotic shells intact. Concentration is one function that supports a hypnotic trance. Some want to keep telling themselves BO is not a Marxist hack with plans to perv out 5 yr olds and show more favor to enemies than his own country. BO wants to be our Chavez and its pretty obvious he is a bad person.
Barrack Obama is light years better then any of the neocrack cronies from PNAC.
 

GTKeeper

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I think thats a really bad comment. I mean what is he thinking this will accomplish?

The problem with McCain is that he has a lot of good ideas (I think) but the GOP will put the hammer down if he deviates from anything they have done in the past.
 

lupi

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And this is exactly different how in the chosen one changing his slogan from "Change We Can Believe In" to "Change We Need" and the revised rhetoric that went with it.


Besides, a country first motto is truely such a devastating thing to have.


Citizens by birth or choice, of a common country, that country has a right to concentrate your affections. The name of AMERICAN, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations.

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

America is not anything if it consists of each of us. It is something only if it consists of all of us.

I am a freeman, an American, a United States Senator, and a Democrat, in that order.

 

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