Countries Trump does business with are not on the banned list

[AnonymouseUser]

Just you calling it so does not make it so. Can you provide some legitimate proof?

https://www.thenation.com/article/eleven-years-how-washington-post-helped-give-us-iraq-war/

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/25/t...w-the-liberal-media-shaped-the-2008-election/

http://www.weeklystandard.com/more-college-rape-hype-time-washington-post/article/972536

http://freebeacon.com/issues/beijing-on-the-potomac/

 

[fskimospy]

https://www.thenation.com/article/eleven-years-how-washington-post-helped-give-us-iraq-war/

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/25/t...w-the-liberal-media-shaped-the-2008-election/

http://www.weeklystandard.com/more-college-rape-hype-time-washington-post/article/972536

http://freebeacon.com/issues/beijing-on-the-potomac/

Is anyone even the least bit surprised that your response was to cite more ultra right wing news?

You're being duped. These 'news' outlets hold you in total contempt and know that you will believe anything they publish no matter how stupid, so long as it conforms to the larger conservative media outlet. Why not show them you're smarter than they think you are and stop buying it?

 

[Jaskalas]

I recently covered their lies in its own topic. Although I did not call them by name in the title as Glenn Greenwald did.

WashPost Is Richly Rewarded for False News About Russia Threat While Public Is Deceived

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Is anyone even the least bit surprised that your response was to cite more ultra right wing news?

You're being duped. These 'news' outlets hold you in total contempt and know that you will believe anything they publish no matter how stupid, so long as it conforms to the larger conservative media outlet. Why not show them you're smarter than they think you are and stop buying it?

Like I said, they've been doing it for years, only now they are immediately being called out on it. Washington Post is fake news. "Why not show them you're smarter than they think you are and stop buying it?"

 

[fskimospy]

I recently covered their lies in its own topic. Although I did not call them by name in the title as Glenn Greenwald did.

WashPost Is Richly Rewarded for False News About Russia Threat While Public Is Deceived

Remember when Glenn Greenwald tried the same shtick about Russia hacking the DNC only to suddenly shut up without apology when the news turned out to be totally right? The guy has totally lost his marbles.

Greenwald's article is also highly, highly dishonest in its depiction of the story about Russian propaganda. It was not a false story at all, and if anything he needs to issue a correction and retraction that we both know will ever be forthcoming.

You can certainly criticize news organizations for running sensationalist news stories, but Greenwald is simply not a credible source. This piece just shows how he's far more guilty of lying and misleading his audience than any of the news sites he criticizes.

 

[fskimospy]

Like I said, they've been doing it for years, only now they are immediately being called out on it. Washington Post is fake news. "Why not show them you're smarter than they think you are and stop buying it?"

Because it's a credible news source that's independently verified on a constant basis and has been for many decades, unlike the sources you use.

Remember, news isn't right or wrong depending on whether or not it tells you what you want to hear. The daily caller, breitbart, the national review, etc, all base their news on telling you what you want to hear. The Post doesn't. That's why it's a credible news source.

Like I said, the daily caller holds you in total contempt. They think you're a moron that will believe anything they say. Why validate this contempt by parroting their lies?

 

[Sunburn74]

Washington Post is FAKE NEWS. This is how the countries were chosen. Libya, Somalia, and Yemen were added in February 2016. The law was passed during Obama's administration (Dec 2015) based on threats against the US. You are being played by globalist shills who want to destroy the USofA.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/01/21/united-states-begins-implementation-changes-visa-waiver-program

The 2016 move you are citing was regarding the visa waiver program. This refers to people coming over temporarily without visas were being restricted. This program lets people come to the US for 90 days without a visa for various purposes, mostly tourism and business. Thus the name "visa waiver program". These people were still able to apply for visas at US embassies and other sites and if they received them could travel normally.

The latest trump move involves people with visas. These are people who live here and have lived here for a long time and have families and houses and jobs and etc. They have the right to be here for multiple years and many become US citizens after a period of time.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

The 2016 move was regarding the visa waiver program. Meaning people coming over without visa's were being restricted

This latest move involves people with visa's. People who live here and have lived here for a long time and have families and houses and jobs.

Right. President trump merely cranked the dial from 10 to 11. For 90 days. Hopefully it gets extended indefinitely and more countries get added to the list. What's interesting is that the LGBTBBQ community is up in arms that 5 countries that punish homosexuals with death have been banned (the others only jail them).

 

[fskimospy]

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/01/21/united-states-begins-implementation-changes-visa-waiver-program

The 2016 move you are citing was regarding the visa waiver program. This refers to people coming over temporarily without visas were being restricted. This program lets people come to the US for 90 days without a visa for various purposes, mostly tourism and business. Thus the name "visa waiver program". These people were still able to apply for visas at US embassies and other sites and if they received them could travel normally.

The latest trump move involves people with visas. These are people who live here and have lived here for a long time and have families and houses and jobs and etc. They have the right to be here for multiple years and many become US citizens after a period of time.

Is anyone the least bit surprised that he didn't even read the things he linked to? I imagine whatever right wing news site duped him linked those bills as well knowing that their audience wouldn't check up on them.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Is anyone the least bit surprised that he didn't even read the things he linked to? I imagine whatever right wing news site duped him linked those bills as well knowing that their audience wouldn't check up on them.

Those coming without Visas are called "refugees."

 

[Capt Caveman]

Right. President trump merely cranked the dial from 10 to 11. For 90 days. Hopefully it gets extended indefinitely and more countries get added to the list. What's interesting is that the LGBTBBQ community is up in arms that 5 countries that punish homosexuals with death have been banned (the others only jail them).

So, people already have visas and greencards should be banned indefinitely. Medical researchers, Google employees, people already vetted and living in the US for years, etc? And you find it interesting that the LGBT community is against the ban that would allow refugees, homosexuals, etc to flee one of these countries? You would think even a troll or retard would understand why.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

So, people already have visas and greencards should be banned indefinitely. Medical researchers, Google employees, etc? And you find it interesting that the LGBT community is against the ban that would allow refugees, homosexuals, etc to flee one of these countries? You would think even a troll or retard would understand why.

I find it ironic that US policies before President Trump was elected created the "refugee crisis" in the first place, and people defended the previous admin despite the fact he didn't stop the wars. Also, fuck Google.

 

[Sunburn74]

Right. President trump merely cranked the dial from 10 to 11. For 90 days. Hopefully it gets extended indefinitely and more countries get added to the list. What's interesting is that the LGBTBBQ community is up in arms that 5 countries that punish homosexuals with death have been banned (the others only jail them).

I get the sense you're just trying to stir the pot and get people riled up.

In response to your comment, I guess the way that Trump should show the world the right moral compass is by not only pursing this muslim ban, but also by reinstituting torture, opening military black-sites that have minimal legal oversight or scrutiny by the press, turning away refugees fleeing death and persecution, and building walls to keep our neighbors out. Also whilst we're at it, lets restrict freedom of speech, voting rights, and make the US socially, financially, and politically inhospitable for who's not a wealthy straight white anglo-saxon man or woman.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I find it ironic that US policies before President Trump was elected created the "refugee crisis" in the first place, and people defended the previous admin despite the fact he didn't stop the wars. Also, fuck Google.

Hahaha! Love how you couldn't understand why the LGBT community would want refugees/etc from these countries. Says how narrowed minded, ignorant and uneducated you are. You are the person who's unAmerican.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Hahaha! Love how you couldn't understand why the LGBT community would want refugees/etc from these countries. Says how narrowed minded, ignorant and uneducated you are. You are the person who's unAmerican.

How many refugees from those countries are homosexual? Also, banning Visa holders has nothing to do with refugees, rather it has to do with citizens of that country who support their country and likely also support the death penalty for homosexuals.

 

[fskimospy]

Those coming without Visas are called "refugees."

Right, and this order covers a lot more than refugees. Can't admit you were duped by conservative media yet again?

 

[Capt Caveman]

How many refugees from those countries are homosexual? Also, banning Visa holders has nothing to do with refugees, rather it has to do with citizens of that country who support their country and likely also support the death penalty for homosexuals.

Great assumptions. You do know what a refugee is right? I don't think you do. Even if it's one homosexual refugee banned, it's one too many but it also could include the family of one or anyone that needs to flee one of these countries. And visa holders support their country and support the death penalty for homosexuals? Hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

 

[Grooveriding]

https://www.thenation.com/article/eleven-years-how-washington-post-helped-give-us-iraq-war/

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/25/t...w-the-liberal-media-shaped-the-2008-election/

http://www.weeklystandard.com/more-college-rape-hype-time-washington-post/article/972536

http://freebeacon.com/issues/beijing-on-the-potomac/

Crazy town links. These sites are the highway rest stops of the internet. Pull over, open your skull and have it defecated in. When you're finished you're left with shit for brains.

Shouldn't everyone only be getting their news straight from Trump? Stick to the lying mentally ill madman for real news!

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Great assumptions. You do know what a refugee is right? I don't think you do. Even if it's one homosexual refugee banned, it's one too many but it also could include the family of one or anyone that needs to flee one of these countries. And visa holders support their country and support the death penalty for homosexuals? Hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

The majority of refugees are anti-gay and bring their hate with them.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/dutch-rabbi-syrian-refugees-must-be-taught-to-tolerate-gays/

 

[Brainonska511]

The majority of refugees are anti-gay and bring their hate with them.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/dutch-rabbi-syrian-refugees-must-be-taught-to-tolerate-gays/

A great many US citizens living here in the US are anti-gay and carry their hate on their sleeves. Are you going to kick them out?

 

[Sunburn74]

The majority of refugees are anti-gay and bring their hate with them.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/dutch-rabbi-syrian-refugees-must-be-taught-to-tolerate-gays/

Why are we going down the rabbit's hole with this guy? He clearly doesn't know anyone who's not a white a male.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

A great many US citizens living here in the US are anti-gay and carry their hate on their sleeves. Are you going to kick them out?

No, they don't threaten to kill them. They have an opinion, and that is all. The US does not have a policy to execute gays, and unlike countries that do, the US will punish anyone who does.

 

[mxnerd]

How Does Trump's Immigration Freeze Square With His Business Interests?

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/511996783/how-does-trumps-immigration-freeze-square-with-his-

The executive action, "Protecting The Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into The United States," targets seven nations: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen. Trump has no business interests in those countries.business-interests

One other thing they have in common, as NPR's Greg Myre writes: "No Muslim extremist from any of these places has carried out a fatal attack in the U.S. in more than two decades."

The 19 terrorists in the Sept. 11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates, Myre points out. They are among the Muslim-majority countries not affected by Trump's immigration freeze, but where Trump does business.

 

[UglyCasanova]

As was posted by a different user above, aren't the countries in question selected by a list Obama came up with? I know it's townhall.com so take with a grain of salt, but see here: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...led-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021

I think it's absurd Saudi Arabia and the UAE didn't make the list if we're trying to protect from terrorist, but to tie it to his business dealings seems stretch.

 

[fskimospy]

As was posted by a different user above, aren't the countries in question selected by a list Obama came up with? I know it's townhall.com so take with a grain of salt, but see here: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...led-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021

I think it's absurd Saudi Arabia and the UAE didn't make the list if we're trying to protect from terrorist, but to tie it to his business dealings seems stretch.

No, Obama's list was for refugees. It naturally wouldn't include countries that aren't a source of refugees. This ban is supposedly about terrorism, meaning that excluding countries with a history of having terrorists come here makes no logical sense.

Conservative media is trying to run cover here, poorly.