Count Me Flabbergasted

[Nebor]

I just built a budget AMD system because I had some extra parts laying around, and thought prices were good, and I wanted to have sweet LAN-age games.

So I built this other system for about $600. I still haven't gotten a good video card for it, I figure it'll get the handmedown GF4ti4400 from my Intel rig when I get my FX5900.

Anyways, this new rig runs almost exactly as well as my intel rig(within 2000 mflops via Sandra). THis causes me to think a couple of things: For us non-video editing types, 800mhz FSB is a marketing gimmick, and 1GB of ram is also for video editing types. I have this AMD overclocking from 1.8ghz up to 2.3ghz... and the temps didn't even change. It is sitting around 41C idle, at goes up to 43C under burn in stress test. My intel, which is clocked from 3.0 up to around 3.3 sits at 47C idle and jumps up to 52C under load. Both are using stock HSFs... I bought some arctic silver to go on the AMD... but it came w/ a heat pad, so I left it alone.

I have an SLK800A fedexing it's way to me now... would it be stupid to mount that when my temps are already this good?

Can I expect more speed from this AMD? What's a highpoint to shoot for? 2.5ghz?

 

[MDE]

2.5 would be a sweet speed, probably smoke any stock P4 out there running a Barton at 2.5. Looks like you got one nice chip there.

 

[Booty]

No joke... I'd love to be getting temps like that period, let alone while overclocking and with stock cooling!

 

[Nebor]

Try as I might, I couldn't get it to accept a 200mhz FSB w/ a 12.0 multiplier. 11.5 works fine, but even with increasing voltage up to 7.25, it wouldn't even boot into XP w/o freezing or restarting... I didn't want to take the voltage any higher without being sure if I could... Suggestions?

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I just built a budget AMD system because I had some extra parts laying around, and thought prices were good, and I wanted to have sweet LAN-age games.

So I built this other system for about $600. I still haven't gotten a good video card for it, I figure it'll get the handmedown GF4ti4400 from my Intel rig when I get my FX5900.

Anyways, this new rig runs almost exactly as well as my intel rig(within 2000 mflops via Sandra). THis causes me to think a couple of things: For us non-video editing types, 800mhz FSB is a marketing gimmick, and 1GB of ram is also for video editing types. I have this AMD overclocking from 1.8ghz up to 2.3ghz... and the temps didn't even change. It is sitting around 41C idle, at goes up to 43C under burn in stress test. My intel, which is clocked from 3.0 up to around 3.3 sits at 47C idle and jumps up to 52C under load. Both are using stock HSFs... I bought some arctic silver to go on the AMD... but it came w/ a heat pad, so I left it alone.

I have an SLK800A fedexing it's way to me now... would it be stupid to mount that when my temps are already this good?

Can I expect more speed from this AMD? What's a highpoint to shoot for? 2.5ghz?

wouldnt the 800 mhz fsb also help a lot in gaming?

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Nebor
I just built a budget AMD system because I had some extra parts laying around, and thought prices were good, and I wanted to have sweet LAN-age games.

So I built this other system for about $600. I still haven't gotten a good video card for it, I figure it'll get the handmedown GF4ti4400 from my Intel rig when I get my FX5900.

Anyways, this new rig runs almost exactly as well as my intel rig(within 2000 mflops via Sandra). THis causes me to think a couple of things: For us non-video editing types, 800mhz FSB is a marketing gimmick, and 1GB of ram is also for video editing types. I have this AMD overclocking from 1.8ghz up to 2.3ghz... and the temps didn't even change. It is sitting around 41C idle, at goes up to 43C under burn in stress test. My intel, which is clocked from 3.0 up to around 3.3 sits at 47C idle and jumps up to 52C under load. Both are using stock HSFs... I bought some arctic silver to go on the AMD... but it came w/ a heat pad, so I left it alone.

I have an SLK800A fedexing it's way to me now... would it be stupid to mount that when my temps are already this good?

Can I expect more speed from this AMD? What's a highpoint to shoot for? 2.5ghz?

wouldnt the 800 mhz fsb also help a lot in gaming?

yes it would, A LOT.

 

[Nebor]

How would it help so much? Do you really think there's a game out there that takes advantage of the ~6GB\s that the P4C cranks out? I doubt there would be much of a performance change between that and the ~3GB\S that the amds make. That's far less than even AGP8x can get to the videocard per second... which is like 2.1GB\S... It just doesn't seem neccessary.

But anyways, what's limiting my OC?

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Nebor
How would it help so much? Do you really think there's a game out there that takes advantage of the ~6GB\s that the P4C cranks out? I doubt there would be much of a performance change between that and the ~3GB\S that the amds make. That's far less than even AGP8x can get to the videocard per second... which is like 2.1GB\S... It just doesn't seem neccessary.

But anyways, what's limiting my OC?

I dont know why it helps, i just know it does 🙂 tested it personally. Probably has a lot to do with proc-memory bandwidth.

Your OC is more than likely held back by the yield of your CPU.
Edit: although its hard to tell without your system specs.

 

[Nebor]

What's it yielding to? I didn't realize there was oncoming traffic going on in my case... Seriously though, how do I turn off the yielding?

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Nebor
What's it yielding to? I didn't realize there was oncoming traffic going on in my case... Seriously though, how do I turn off the yielding?

Yield is the speed grade/quality of the chip. Its basically at the overclocking ceiling, you cant go faster without a newer/higher step chip. Unless you raise the voltage more (can damage the cpu) or get supercooling (expensive).