Could you fake following a religion to get your kids into a better school?

[JulesMaximus]

My Step-Dad went to Brigham Young and took the mandatory religious studies courses even though he is an atheist. So, sure... why not?

 

[brandonb]

I took Worlds Religion class in high school. It was a public school.

We had all sorts of people in it (from different faiths), but most were religious or had a religious upbringing. I was an atheist though.

I remember that Buddhism or Taoism being the most "logical" of the religions. I was thinking at the time, that if I had to pick a religion I'd pick Taoism. I remember some kid on the last day of the semester ask the teacher: "So which religion do you follow?" The teacher responded "Christian". Then they got into a debate because the teacher actually portrayed the Christians as being the most illogical/silly of the bunch. So the kid and teacher were going back and forth about it. The teacher finally said "It may be the most far fetched of them all, but it's the one I just happen to believe." And the discussion was over. All in all, it was a really good class, and while it was an elective in my high school, I was thinking it should be mandatory. The type of learning/discussion we had in the class greatly exceeded what you'd get in many other classes. It was quite interactive, and it really brought you into some critical thinking. Another class in the same boat as World Religions was "Public Law"... I believe both of those should be mandatory.

That said, if a Catholic school teaches religion, I'd consider it a good thing. It's a good way to explore the mind and various viewpoints about existence/the world around you. There is a ton of value to get from it. I'm sure some people might envision a nun with a ruler yelling at the kids "Convert or go to hell" and if they said "No" they'd get whacked with the ruler, but it's not that at all.

Don't be scared of religion. It's not as evil as the media or some retards on an internet forum might portray it as.

 

[Eug]

I'd be curious if you could find a place where there is a sufficient population of people who would be willing to pay for an inferior school enough to keep it open.

I think those people are more likely to be found home schooling their kids.

Uh no. Home schooling is pretty uncommon in most areas.

And "inferior" is a pretty broad term. My friend took his kids out of Jewish school and sent them to public school. But the Jewish school wasn't exactly great. It had good enough academics, but not really any better than the better public schools. Kids went there because their parents wanted Jewish teachers and classes emphasizing Judaism.

 

[ThinClient]

What about students or parents of a different religious affiliation than that of the school, e.g. Jews at a Catholic school or similar?

I toss all religions into the same basket, so I wouldn't consider a jewish family attending a christian school to be part of the not-religious set that we were talking about earlier.

 

[ThinClient]

Ok, I misread it as saying those who bother to pay for religious education are an impossibly small minority

Noooo, no no no. llytaserlijalser1 whose forum name I can't remember how to spell hehe said basically that he's not religious but sends his daughter to a religious school for a better education or to keep her out of the abortion of a school that would be his local public school. That does happen (obviously) but it's so very rare.

My point was that the vast majority of people who send their kids to religious schools do it for religious reasons.

 

[ThinClient]

Somebody in this thread needs Jesus. I love it when atheists argue over stupid shit like this, which is why nobody takes atheists seriously b/c they get butthurt so easily. Over 1/3 of this forum either believes in God or a higher power which I find comforting on a silly tech forum which should be dominated by atheists like yourself. But. it. isn't.

It still isn't too late to give yourself to the big guy upstairs. We love you buddy, let the anger go.

Show me proof that the big guy upstairs actually exists. Then show me that the big guy upstairs is the one you claim it to be. Even if you COULD do those two things, we'd have a serious problem.

BTW, I'm not butthurt. Not in the slightest. I simply give people the level of respect that they give me. If they want to be assholes, fine, I can match them asshole-for-asshole. You've been kind and respectful, so you don't get treated like an asshole.

 

[It's Not Lupus]

I knew a Muslim in a private Catholic school. I didn't think belonging to a particular religion is a requirement at least at this school. Besides your kids would have to pretend too and take required religion classes.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I toss all religions into the same basket, so I wouldn't consider a jewish family attending a christian school to be part of the not-religious set that we were talking about earlier.

But we're not just talking about religious vs non-religious, we're talking about indoctrination of a particular religion and whether or not parents would be willing to potentially have the impressionable young minds of their own children corrupted by religion/a false religion. While I am aware that religious people are generally more accepting of other religious people than atheists, that doesn't mean they accept the other religious beliefs themselves.

 

[highland145]

But we're not just talking about religious vs non-religious, we're talking about indoctrination of a particular religion and whether or not parents would be willing to potentially have the impressionable young minds of their own children corrupted by religion/a false religion. While I am aware that religious people are generally more accepting of other religious people than atheists, that doesn't mean they accept the other religious beliefs themselves.

When puberty hits, it's all out the window. I wouldn't be concerned.

 

[ThinClient]

But we're not just talking about religious vs non-religious, we're talking about indoctrination of a particular religion and whether or not parents would be willing to potentially have the impressionable young minds of their own children corrupted by religion/a false religion. While I am aware that religious people are generally more accepting of other religious people than atheists, that doesn't mean they accept the other religious beliefs themselves.

You're conjuring arguments to disagree with.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Guy says nobody takes atheists seriously because they're unhinged, so you flip your shit in rebuttal. Brilliant. There is a bit of truth to what he said, you know. Also consider the possibility that he was trolling a troll.

Errr, didn't 'flip my shit'. I thought it was a factual response. If he was trolling a troll, I missed it, my mistake.

*edit - I don't consider ThinClient a troll. Just another person who speaks truth that people don't want to hear.

 

[ThinClient]

Errr, didn't 'flip my shit'. I thought it was a factual response. If he was trolling a troll, I missed it, my mistake.

*edit - I don't consider ThinClient a troll. Just another person who speaks truth that people don't want to hear.

Mah man! :thumbsup:

It's so easy a response to judge someone a troll when the words they type aren't words that support their agenda. Oh noes! Someone doesn't agree with what I say! THEY MUST BE TROLLING BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD EVER DISAGREE WITH ME.

 

[Ruptga]

You DO support my agenda, you fucking retard; that's why I can't stand you.

The difference is I'm not a prick about it, while you rarely miss an opportunity to make an ass of yourself in the name of your dogma. The ignorant masses that literally think atheists exist to undermine everything they value don't need any more reason to hate us, but you're happily giving it to them by being an unwarranted asshole.

Believe it or not, it is entirely possible to speak the truth - even unpleasant truth - while being civil.

Oh and re: the inevitable pot/kettle, I'll just direct you to post #113.

 

[OverVolt]

I took Worlds Religion class in high school. It was a public school.

We had all sorts of people in it (from different faiths), but most were religious or had a religious upbringing. I was an atheist though.

I remember that Buddhism or Taoism being the most "logical" of the religions. I was thinking at the time, that if I had to pick a religion I'd pick Taoism. I remember some kid on the last day of the semester ask the teacher: "So which religion do you follow?" The teacher responded "Christian". Then they got into a debate because the teacher actually portrayed the Christians as being the most illogical/silly of the bunch. So the kid and teacher were going back and forth about it. The teacher finally said "It may be the most far fetched of them all, but it's the one I just happen to believe." And the discussion was over. All in all, it was a really good class, and while it was an elective in my high school, I was thinking it should be mandatory. The type of learning/discussion we had in the class greatly exceeded what you'd get in many other classes. It was quite interactive, and it really brought you into some critical thinking. Another class in the same boat as World Religions was "Public Law"... I believe both of those should be mandatory.

That said, if a Catholic school teaches religion, I'd consider it a good thing. It's a good way to explore the mind and various viewpoints about existence/the world around you. There is a ton of value to get from it. I'm sure some people might envision a nun with a ruler yelling at the kids "Convert or go to hell" and if they said "No" they'd get whacked with the ruler, but it's not that at all.

Don't be scared of religion. It's not as evil as the media or some retards on an internet forum might portray it as.

World religions :thumbsup:

 

[ThinClient]

You DO support my agenda, you fucking retard; that's why I can't stand you.

The difference is I'm not a prick about it, while you rarely miss an opportunity to make an ass of yourself in the name of your dogma. The ignorant masses that literally think atheists exist to undermine everything they value don't need any more reason to hate us, but you're happily giving it to them by being an unwarranted asshole.

Believe it or not, it is entirely possible to speak the truth - even unpleasant truth - while being civil.

Oh and re: the inevitable pot/kettle, I'll just direct you to post #113.

Blah blah blah. I can be civil. If you want to be an asshole to me, I won't be civil. I'm the unwarranted asshole? LOL, why don't you go read your first post to me and tell me again who the unwarranted asshole is.

So, like I said, fuck off kid.

 

[alkemyst]

Blah blah blah. I can be civil. If you want to be an asshole to me, I won't be civil. I'm the unwarranted asshole? LOL, why don't you go read your first post to me and tell me again who the unwarranted asshole is.

So, like I said, fuck off kid.

You'd have failed even Middle School debate, just sayin'