Could we see 4-more from Trump?

Mai72

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I admit. Things are looking pretty good. The economy is still rolling along. The Trump and Kim summit is going to be historic. Trump's approval rating is getting much better. We still have a few more years, so who knows what is going to happen. But, let's all be real. It looked like Trump was going to crash and burn, and TBH it looks like he had us all fooled. He has a very unorthodox style as president, but he's finding success. The Trump/Kim summit is going to do down as a historic event. This wouldn't had taken place if Trump was soft on North Korea. Why wasn't there an Obama/Kim summit? That's because Obama was soft. I still like Obama though.

This could also mean bad news for Dems. An improved Trump rating could mean a much more difficult task for Dems to regain Congress. Again. Only time will tell.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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It's possible. It depends on who runs. Schiff or now Merkley have shown they can do more than shake their heads and furrow brows. I'd run to the polls, well walk briskly at least, to vote for either. So far other candidates aren't inspiring except to the Faithful, who are going to vote a Dem. It's the independents and the detached voters that will determine what happens.
 

TheVrolok

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Absolutely. I think he's in a pretty reasonable spot right now. Demonstrates the problems inherent in the system.
 

BUTCH1

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Sure, the tax cuts temporarily boosted the economy but most of the $$ saved by Co's went into stock by-backs. Meanwhile the deficit became even more massive, I don't see trading our younger generation's future off so the 1% can get richer now, the debts will eventually need to be repaid. Amazingly, few seem to notice the economy was already in a growth trend when Obama's term ended, the tax cuts were not even needed, even some of the 1%'er's said they didn't need it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Absolutely. I think he's in a pretty reasonable spot right now. Demonstrates the problems inherent in the system.

Best way IMO to take care of 2020 is to get out the vote in 2018. The effective will opposing that is very strong, by some partisans too. More Schiffs and Merkels, please.
 

Jaskalas

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The Trump and Kim summit is going to be historic.

We're about to find out, but respect is an issue for Asian culture and Trump has the decorum of a slobbering pig. I fear the worst when putting those two in a room together. Don't count this chicken til it hatches.

The Trump/Kim summit is going to do down as a historic event. This wouldn't had taken place if Trump was soft on North Korea. Why wasn't there an Obama/Kim summit?

Kim waited until he had developed nuclear ICBMs. He wanted the strongest hand he could get before sitting down to negotiate. That's actually really simple.
 

Indus

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Depends on resentment in PA, MI, WI, MN, NC, FL & VA.

And the NK summit is a total photo op with nothing coming out of it, like the mission accomplished bush banner.

NK has to get something big to give up their nukes. What will that be? is that acceptable to the USA? And quite honestly NK is totally fine with the status quo with China giving NK 90% of everything it needs.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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40% approval rating, and all those racist, mysogonist, bigoted tweets.

Bonus point for trade wars, health care failure, and tax cuts for the rich.

Not a prayer.
 

Jaskalas

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As for Trump's prospects, the economy has been on a very long road to recovering from 2008. Why should Trump get credit for the result of an economy whose path was establish many years prior? So far he hasn't blown it up, whoop-de-!@#$-do. Trump's attacks on world trade are going to have negative consequences. So I'd say give him time, he's working on crushing the economy.

For 2020 we need a spokesman who can tell it like it is. Who can pin the tail on the elephant. Who can demonstrate to people that Wall Street's success has not been a shared success. That our people's prosperity has been drained and stolen away these past MANY decades. That trickle down has failed them. That Republicans have failed the nation. Yes, you have jobs. And every year those wages are suppressed further and we move closer towards economic slavery.

Open your eyes and look around at our nation. You will see segments that resemble a third world country. And many more people in need who are on a quick descent towards it. Automation is upon us and the last vestiges of your labor will be eliminated. Now is not the time to cling to Republican economic fantasies. The mythical bootstraps will not save you. Instead you must look towards one another. You must join us to build a better future.
  • Demonstrate the problem.
  • Provide the solution.
Actually engaging on the issues would be a major step up from the 2016 campaign.
 
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shortylickens

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Depends on resentment in PA, MI, WI, MN, NC, FL & VA.

And the NK summit is a total photo op with nothing coming out of it, like the mission accomplished bush banner.

NK has to get something big to give up their nukes. What will that be? is that acceptable to the USA? And quite honestly NK is totally fine with the status quo with China giving NK 90% of everything it needs.

If, in two years, people in VA still remember Charlottesville and the aftermath, he will not win here. Not even the casual racists will tolerate Klansmen running around with guns and driving over a single mom.
 

bfun_x1

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We're about to find out, but respect is an issue for Asian culture and Trump has the decorum of a slobbering pig. I fear the worst when putting those two in a room together. Don't count this chicken til it hatches.



Kim waited until he had developed nuclear ICBMs. He wanted the strongest hand he could get before sitting down to negotiate. That's actually really simple.

Kim has already won no matter what happens. He's been acknowledged by the president as a world leader that deserves recognition and respect. That may be all he has ever wanted. If he walks away from the summit with the POTUS, again, it will make him look even stronger.
 

Greenman

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If the economy continues to be solid, he comes up with a win on tariffs against US goods, and comes to some kind of agreement with NK, I don't see how he could lose.
 

LBAR

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who is greenman??
ih ih ih ih hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi anyone else bored right now?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
 

Amused

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I put favorable odds on him not making it to 2020. He'll be impeached and removed from office.
 

BUTCH1

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I put favorable odds on him not making it to 2020. He'll be impeached and removed from office.
If not impeached he'll be damaged by the report badly enough to be a liability to the GOP. Could you imagine the ammo Cohen's seized documents will provide?, this was Trumps personal lawyer who was cashing in for millions selling supposed "access" to a sitting president. Talk about a "swamp", Trump's an ocean of corruption.
 

dank69

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I admit. Things are looking pretty good. The economy is still rolling along. The Trump and Kim summit is going to be historic. Trump's approval rating is getting much better. We still have a few more years, so who knows what is going to happen. But, let's all be real. It looked like Trump was going to crash and burn, and TBH it looks like he had us all fooled. He has a very unorthodox style as president, but he's finding success. The Trump/Kim summit is going to do down as a historic event. This wouldn't had taken place if Trump was soft on North Korea. Why wasn't there an Obama/Kim summit? That's because Obama was soft. I still like Obama though.

This could also mean bad news for Dems. An improved Trump rating could mean a much more difficult task for Dems to regain Congress. Again. Only time will tell.
Why wasn't there an Obama/Kim summit? Obama mentioned he would talk to Kim during his 2008 campaign and the GOP went apeshit about it. How could he lend legitimacy to a dictator? Now that their own is in charge and they are desperate for anything that can be construed as a win of course they're all rah rah sis boom bah.
 
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uclaLabrat

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If dems take the house this year and start leading investigations instead of the toilet-paper cover ups we'e seen from the Republican committees, I don't see how he can recover. Throw in possible Midwest economic devastation from these stupid trade wars and he's sinking his own ship. Time will tell, hard to count him out given the incumbency advantage and Putin's thumb on the scales.
 

HomerJS

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I admit. Things are looking pretty good. The economy is still rolling along. The Trump and Kim summit is going to be historic. Trump's approval rating is getting much better. We still have a few more years, so who knows what is going to happen. But, let's all be real. It looked like Trump was going to crash and burn, and TBH it looks like he had us all fooled. He has a very unorthodox style as president, but he's finding success. The Trump/Kim summit is going to do down as a historic event. This wouldn't had taken place if Trump was soft on North Korea. Why wasn't there an Obama/Kim summit? That's because Obama was soft. I still like Obama though.

This could also mean bad news for Dems. An improved Trump rating could mean a much more difficult task for Dems to regain Congress. Again. Only time will tell.
You know that how? The fact that Trump did little or no homework prepping for it? I didn't pull that gem out of my ass, Trump admitted it.

I'll bet you the results from this summit will fall well short of the JCPOA which he decries every chance he gets.
 
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Moonbeam

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You have way more faith in Americans than I do.
You don't need to. Have faith in monkey curiosity. As long as humanity remains humanity and hasn't evolved into something else, there will always be monkeys among us who will be satisfied only by truth. They will be driven to search and discover until they know and will reject anything that doesn't meet the tests. Am I right?

Remember, if you have a negative attitude and I think you do, you should view it with with the same contempt in which you hold everything else. You should have a very jaundiced eye about being negative, no?
 

TheVrolok

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40% approval rating, and all those racist, mysogonist, bigoted tweets.

Bonus point for trade wars, health care failure, and tax cuts for the rich.

Not a prayer.
As much as I wish you were right, don't forget he doesn't need a majority.. or even a plurality of the vote to win reelection.