Could We Blame Lack of Religion and the Liberal Culture of Death?

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EXman

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Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: jman19
"Liberal Culture of Death" aka more labeling and rhetoric, and no substance. Bravo :thumbsdown:

I think he explained the label:

Well, I'll tell you what, maybe the liberals and their culture of death is the problem, folks. There is a culture of death with liberalism, from abortion on. Embryonic stem cells, you name it, euthanasia? They own that as well as they own defeat in Iraq. Maybe the instant effort to ban God and faith from the public square is a problem here. Maybe the coddling of criminals by liberals, including judges, has created this environment.

Did you read that? Want to disagree?

The issue isn't death, it's female reproductive rights and research to help the living at the expense of the "might be living." I don't think many liberals believe in these issues because they involve death, but Rush can spin that however he likes.
rationalize much?
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
What the hell is the "liberal culture of death?" I've never heard of such a thing. :confused:

I think he explained the label:

Well, I'll tell you what, maybe the liberals and their culture of death is the problem, folks. There is a culture of death with liberalism, from abortion on. Embryonic stem cells, you name it, euthanasia? They own that as well as they own defeat in Iraq. Maybe the instant effort to ban God and faith from the public square is a problem here. Maybe the coddling of criminals by liberals, including judges, has created this environment.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Vic
You can blame whatever you want to blame, it doesn't make you right. If you're looking for the REAL cause of all this to heap blame upon... sorry, but that particular misaligned sequence of DNA self-destructed after completing its mission.

Hush! Libs need this event to bolster their gun control myth! Don't let the truth get in their way! ;)

And Rush Limbaugh needs this to USE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES to call Democrats Heathens and and Murderers

Uh yeah, I thought it would be clear that my comment was in reference to Limbaugh and his nonsense.

All this blame game nonsense is counter-productive. I understand that America is in mourning right now, but going Nancy Kerrigan ain't gonna solve a damn thing.

You were 100% clear

I just think Rush Limbaugh is a very sick man who hurts America more than his followers realize.

Should we lock him up at your discretion? Civil rights indeed. ;)

Civil rights and free speach are only for those that agree with them?
 

dahunan

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Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: tomywishbone
Why would anyone listen to a heroin addict? That always makes me laugh.

Not only that

WHERE was he caught with VIAGRA???

I just cannot believe people are really dumb enough to still listen to him .. sad sad.. sad..
 

BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: BoberFett
What the hell is the "liberal culture of death?" I've never heard of such a thing. :confused:

I think he explained the label:

Well, I'll tell you what, maybe the liberals and their culture of death is the problem, folks. There is a culture of death with liberalism, from abortion on. Embryonic stem cells, you name it, euthanasia? They own that as well as they own defeat in Iraq. Maybe the instant effort to ban God and faith from the public square is a problem here. Maybe the coddling of criminals by liberals, including judges, has created this environment.

Wait, the coddling of criminals is part of the culture of death? What should we do instead, execute them all? This guy is a nutjob, and I'll never understand why they get any press. If we all turned off our televisions and ignored these talking heads, they'd go away.
 

HomerJS

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Too bad the "liberal culture of death" doesn't include doctor shopping for controlled substances and stocking up on Viagra for going down to the Dominican to bang some hookers.

Way to go dittoheads.
 

1EZduzit

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Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Let's see how many of you in this forum are open-minded enough to read this!

You think I'm going to waste any of my time to reading a Rush Linbaugh diatribe about the so called "Liberal Culture of Death so I can argue about it with a bunch of dittoheads??


LOL, sorry think again. I've already been there and done that.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
How are hunters and gun lovers not a culture of death?
Which side of the debate wants unlimited abortions?
Which side wants doctor assisted suicide?

So called ?culture of death? may be a little over blown but it is clear which side has a higher value for human life.
 

daveymark

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Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Let's see how many of you in this forum are open-minded enough to read this!

You think I'm going to waste any of my time to reading a Rush Linbaugh diatribe about the so called "Liberal Culture of Death so I can argue about it with a bunch of dittoheads??


LOL, sorry think again. I've already been there and done that.

yet your ilk posts regurgitated garbage from leftwing extremist sites such as crooksandliars and thinkprogress, and expect "rational debate"?

pot, meet kettle.



 

DealMonkey

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Nov 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
How are hunters and gun lovers not a culture of death?
Which side of the debate wants unlimited abortions?
Which side wants doctor assisted suicide?

So called ?culture of death? may be a little over blown but it is clear which side has a higher value for human life.

You could argue the same thing with conservatives and their support for war. Or do brown people not count? :confused:

Let's deal with reality here - the right likes to blather on about their "culture of life" but they're incredibly selective about which lives have value.
 

daveymark

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Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
How are hunters and gun lovers not a culture of death?
Which side of the debate wants unlimited abortions?
Which side wants doctor assisted suicide?

So called ?culture of death? may be a little over blown but it is clear which side has a higher value for human life.

cue lib "capital punishment/war"repsonse in 3...2...

EDIT: whoops, a lib already beat me to it :)
 

alchemize

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I don't think it's a culture of death. It's aethiesm, youth, and left wing ideology.

We continually see leftist posters trying to tie christianity and right-wing ideology directly to acts of violence (i.e. abortion clinic acts of terror). So I would think now that we have a pattern of school shootings where the shooters clearly were not christian and hated christians (ala columbine, cho, etc.) that aethiesm and violent left wing ideology in youth are correlated with massacres?

Now of course, the common element could be mental illness, but since the lefties in the forum will never subscribe to that theory, neither shall I :D
 

1EZduzit

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Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Let's see how many of you in this forum are open-minded enough to read this!

You think I'm going to waste any of my time to reading a Rush Linbaugh diatribe about the so called "Liberal Culture of Death so I can argue about it with a bunch of dittoheads??


LOL, sorry think again. I've already been there and done that.

yet your ilk posts regurgitated garbage from leftwing extremist sites such as crooksandliars and thinkprogress, and expect "rational debate"?

pot, meet kettle.

"ilk" is a pretty big word for such a little boy, now show me where I post reguriteated garbage, or forever ear the title "dittohead". :laugh:
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Vic
You can blame whatever you want to blame, it doesn't make you right. If you're looking for the REAL cause of all this to heap blame upon... sorry, but that particular misaligned sequence of DNA self-destructed after completing its mission.

Hush! Libs need this event to bolster their gun control myth! Don't let the truth get in their way! ;)

And Rush Limbaugh needs this to USE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES to call Democrats Heathens and and Murderers

Uh yeah, I thought it would be clear that my comment was in reference to Limbaugh and his nonsense.

All this blame game nonsense is counter-productive. I understand that America is in mourning right now, but going Nancy Kerrigan ain't gonna solve a damn thing.

You were 100% clear

I just think Rush Limbaugh is a very sick man who hurts America more than his followers realize.

Should we lock him up at your discretion? Civil rights indeed. ;)

Civil rights and free speach are only for those that agree with them?

No one suggested locking up up except the previous poster... so he suggests something unmentioned and you take it as though he actually was responding to someone else's suggestion.. brilliant!
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
How are hunters and gun lovers not a culture of death?
Which side of the debate wants unlimited abortions?
Which side wants doctor assisted suicide?

So called ?culture of death? may be a little over blown but it is clear which side has a higher value for human life.

Abortions kill brainless vessels. Doctor assisted suicide is simply euthenasia for humans.. to end suffering.

Why are abortions of brainless vessels bad(90% of abortions are done within 12 weeks) and how is killing yourself to end the endless pain bad? We euthenize pets to end their suffering.. why should they get better treatment than humans!? Haha, so ridiculous.

How do gun lovers and hunters end suffering or kill empty vessels? Animals have functioning active brains. Gun lovers cause deaths all the time-kids get the guns, gun
"accidents", etc.
 

dahunan

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Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
How are hunters and gun lovers not a culture of death?
Which side of the debate wants unlimited abortions?
Which side wants doctor assisted suicide?

So called ?culture of death? may be a little over blown but it is clear which side has a higher value for human life.

Right

Kill Social Secutiry

Kill Medicare and make it help the rich more than the needy

Kill all Social Welfare Programs

^^^^^^^^^^^^ whose ideas are those? ^^^^^^^

Give human beings a free choice *abortion to a limit >>to a certain limit<< OR do like some countries where Rush takes his Viagra and let the unwanted children become child sex slaves.. I wonder if heroin abuse creates pedophilia?
 

shadow9d9

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Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: alchemize
I don't think it's a culture of death. It's aethiesm, youth, and left wing ideology.

We continually see leftist posters trying to tie christianity and right-wing ideology directly to acts of violence (i.e. abortion clinic acts of terror). So I would think now that we have a pattern of school shootings where the shooters clearly were not christian and hated christians (ala columbine, cho, etc.) that aethiesm and violent left wing ideology in youth are correlated with massacres?

Now of course, the common element could be mental illness, but since the lefties in the forum will never subscribe to that theory, neither shall I :D

"We continually see leftist posters trying to tie christianity and right-wing ideology directly to acts of violence "

You mean like "tieing" Christianity to the crusades? It is tough work, but somebodys got to do it! I guess that is my "youth" talking... I remember things like the Crusades or missionaries and the conquistadors in America because I am young I guess...

I am not atheist(which believes that god does not exist), so there goes that... "left wing ideology".. well, I'm not a democrat. Generalizations... everyone likes to throw them around like they are worth anything.

 

BaliBabyDoc

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Jan 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
How are hunters and gun lovers not a culture of death?

Well, those rabbits and other varmints were just asking for it . . .

Seriously, I don't think its fair to lump love for inanimate objects (30-06) and shooting animals for 'sport' in with those that have 'flexible' morals when it comes to human life. Unfortunately, most people lack the common sense and discipline to actually debate these issues intelligently. Often they just talk past one another.

1) Abortion - For some, the human conceptus has inalienable rights to existence. For others, the human conceptus has rights that have few bounds EXCEPT to the extent those rights infringe upon a woman's right to control her reproduction. Reasonable people from both perspectives come to the conclusion that society should marshal its resources to reduce the 'cause' of abortion (unintended/unwanted pregnancies). Zealots would never concede such a point and if they did the former would say (abstinence only) while the latter would claim (focusing on conception control is a diversion).

2) Death penalty - For some, there is such a thing as sanctity of life. Some Buddhist and an occasional Catholic. For most, life is sacred if meets certain qualifications. In my book, if you can make up the rules as you go along then they have nothing to do with 'universal truths' or 'natural law'. It's just your BS of the moment. Life in prison without opportunity for parole is unsatisfactory because it doesn't provide 'societal retribution.' The death penalty certainly isn't a deterrent and it certainly doesn't make the public safer than putting these people behind bars for the rest of their lives. Yet, curiously many of the opponents to #1 can scarcely contain their glee with the application of #2. Their polar opposites have the same befuddling cognitive dissonance. My guess is both sides deal with it by NOT thinking.

3) War - It just keeps piling up that 'pro-life', 'pro-death penalty', and 'pro-war' often describe the same person. Granted, they are relatively flexible in the last one. Revolutionary War (yes), Civil War (wait a minute), Vietnam War (yes), Bosnia (hold up Slick Willie - we don't do nationbuilding), Bombing Sudan/Afghanistan (wag the dog Bubba), Bombing Afghanistan (go George), Bombing Sudan (why - what's happening in Sudan?), invading Iraq (hell yeah - nationbuilding R us). Think about what the US government spends on weapons of war. Funds spent under the auspices of a Department of Defense and protecting the country . . . yet we argue over spending 1% of that amount to provide health insurance to kids in working families. Not to mention the great needs among people throughout the world.

But instead we glorify weapons of war. Arguably, the US is among the most militant countries on the globe and proud of it. My guess is that's not what Sabine Baring-Gould meant. It's without out a doubt totally inconsistent with WWJD.

Limpaugh is a hypocrite of extreme proportions . . . well apparently no all proportions sildenafil. As warped as the gunman was . . . he was indeed describing people like Limpaugh. A consumer culture of hypocrites with flexible morals. It's a shame the guy didn't have the decency to express his sentiments in words/video alone and instead chose to attack the innocent.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: jman19
"Liberal Culture of Death" aka more labeling and rhetoric, and no substance. Bravo :thumbsdown:

I think he explained the label:

Well, I'll tell you what, maybe the liberals and their culture of death is the problem, folks. There is a culture of death with liberalism, from abortion on. Embryonic stem cells, you name it, euthanasia? They own that as well as they own defeat in Iraq. Maybe the instant effort to ban God and faith from the public square is a problem here. Maybe the coddling of criminals by liberals, including judges, has created this environment.

Did you read that? Want to disagree?

That's gotta be one of the most moronic statements to come out of that blowhard's mouth and that's saying something. How does that guy still have a radio show?
 

alchemize

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Mar 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: alchemize
I don't think it's a culture of death. It's aethiesm, youth, and left wing ideology.

We continually see leftist posters trying to tie christianity and right-wing ideology directly to acts of violence (i.e. abortion clinic acts of terror). So I would think now that we have a pattern of school shootings where the shooters clearly were not christian and hated christians (ala columbine, cho, etc.) that aethiesm and violent left wing ideology in youth are correlated with massacres?

Now of course, the common element could be mental illness, but since the lefties in the forum will never subscribe to that theory, neither shall I :D

"We continually see leftist posters trying to tie christianity and right-wing ideology directly to acts of violence "

You mean like "tieing" Christianity to the crusades? It is tough work, but somebodys got to do it! I guess that is my "youth" talking... I remember things like the Crusades or missionaries and the conquistadors in America because I am young I guess...

I am not atheist(which believes that god does not exist), so there goes that... "left wing ideology".. well, I'm not a democrat. Generalizations... everyone likes to throw them around like they are worth anything.

Sure, crusades included! You're a prime example of the poster I mentioned! I'm glad to see we agree. Right wing christians shoot at abortion doctors, left wing agnostics/aethiests shoot up schools. But I think if you look at the scoreboard - the lefties are definitely winning!

And the old "I'm not a democrat, I'm independent" garbage from posters like you gets old. Frankly, I've never seen you post one single non-left wing post (where you state a political opinion). Feel free to correct me...by posting evidence please not by "because I said so".