Could the neurons in our head be binary too?

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TecHNooB

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What do you mean..you answered your own question?

im asking whether or not you understand what is meant by binary.
the "of course it's analog because everything's analog" answer bothers me.
 
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zanejohnson

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I'm not trying to argue anything I'm just saying nature doesn't use binary...look at light...since I would say that's the greatest mystery to us


That would be where I would start
 

CycloWizard

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Think how a sound system recreates a sound....modern sound system...its all about the quality of the digital to analog conversion..and then the amplification of the analog signal....

Which is why vinyl is actually the BEST form of recreation...it never goes digitial...which means less links in the chain and by default less loss....super high end audio equipment consists of vinyl and vacuum tubes
Once the ADC/DAC system is sufficiently high resolution and operates at a sufficiently high sampling rate, your brain can't tell the difference and the digital signal is physiologically equivalent to the analog signal.
 

zanejohnson

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Once the ADC/DAC system is sufficiently high resolution and operates at a sufficiently high sampling rate, your brain can't tell the difference and the digital signal is physiologically equivalent to the analog signal.

Just cuz we can't tell a difference doesn't mean there's not one... it may be equal to our ears that hear between 20hz and 20 kHz but what if we weren't limited by that...there's a difference say the dac becomes inefficcient at 50khz....and we lived on another planet with physics that allowed music to be made and enjoyed at frequencys in that range...then you'd notice the difference
 

epidemis

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It better be considered binary. Otherwise, when we develop the technology to transfer our brains into a machine, we will run into all sorts of compatibility problems.

That is not the stumbling block, any digital machine can stimulate an analog machine.
 

Joseph F

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Think how a sound system recreates a sound....modern sound system...its all about the quality of the digital to analog conversion..and then the amplification of the analog signal....

Which is why vinyl is actually the BEST form of recreation...it never goes digitial...which means less links in the chain and by default less loss....super high end audio equipment consists of vinyl and vacuum tubes

Technically speaking, vinyl is not the best. Vinyl may sound "better" to some, but that's only because of their tastes. Vinyl usually produces a warmer sound which many people like. The same effect can be achieved with a good vacuum tube amplifier attached to a digital source.
 

SillyOReilly

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It better be considered binary. Otherwise, when we develop the technology to transfer our brains into a machine, we will run into all sorts of compatibility problems.

When that happens, are there two distinct individuals that are you?

If I then killed your human body, do you actually still exist?

If I shut off and erased the machine, did I actually just kill your copy?
 

momeNt

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According to Raymond Kurdzweil I believe we will be able to create a "human brain" as a CPU around 2040 or so. So we'll need the definite answer to your question before then in order to construct it.
 

CycloWizard

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Just cuz we can't tell a difference doesn't mean there's not one... it may be equal to our ears that hear between 20hz and 20 kHz but what if we weren't limited by that...there's a difference say the dac becomes inefficcient at 50khz....and we lived on another planet with physics that allowed music to be made and enjoyed at frequencys in that range...then you'd notice the difference
That's like saying 2=2 in this universe, but what if we were in another universe where 2!=2? Who cares? Music is sampled at 44.1 kHz, which is good enough. I can carry a week's worth of music around on a USB drive rather than a pickup truck and my ears can't tell the difference.