Could stricter border policies be increasing the numbers of illegal residents?

[miketheidiot]

The theory went like this:

in the old days of illegal mexican labor, it would primarily be only mail wage earners that came to the united states, most often to make enough money to help at home. Since the boarder was relatively easy to cross, they would frequently come and go, staying for perhaps a few months at a time.

Since border policies became stricter, people have been more likely to bring their families with them and to stay permanently, since they (the primary wage earner) cannot be guaranteed to get back into the united states to earn funds in the future.

 

[JS80]

you're forgetting the fact that if it were easier to cross, half of mexico would attempt to emigrate, which more than makes up for the "bring the whole family" part.

but it's lack of wall + shithole mexican country that is causing illegal immigration.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: JS80
you're forgetting the fact that if it were easier to cross, half of mexico would attempt to emigrate, which more than makes up for the "bring the whole family" part.

they didn't when it was easier to cross.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
The theory went like this:

in the old days of illegal mexican labor, it would primarily be only mail wage earners that came to the united states, most often to make enough money to help at home. Since the boarder was relatively easy to cross, they would frequently come and go, staying for perhaps a few months at a time.

Since border policies became stricter, people have been more likely to bring their families with them and to stay permanently, since they (the primary wage earner) cannot be guaranteed to get back into the united states to earn funds in the future.

I dont think they should be working in the Postal Service, that is for sure.

 

[Jaskalas]

Not just Mexico, but people from every inch of land in Central and South America.

We?re a hot meal ticket right now, but we are a finite resource and I don?t know about you, but I think we have enough unskilled labor that cannot read or write and we don?t need more, we should not allow more.

If no one did those low wage jobs, the wages for them would rise and our citizens would fill them. Without a 1 million + /year workforce from the south entering this country, we?d have enough jobs for everyone ? employers would be fighting for employees.

We also wouldn?t have to force and cram bilingual education down everyone?s throat so that we can get along with this parasitic infection. You know how much it has cost California alone to have bilingual teachers in every classroom? Hell, just think of how much it costs them to build a new school campus EVERY SINGLE DAY of the year in order to keep up with the increase in population. That increase is entirely from immigration, because citizens are fleeing the state.


When it comes to securing the border. The fact that people are getting through means we haven?t been even remotely harsh enough. I mean, we?re incapable of building a fence let alone doing anything substantive on this issue. We haven?t done ****, and that is the problem. Those among us who are determined to keep it that way should be held responsible for this plight and outcast accordingly.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
The theory went like this:

in the old days of illegal mexican labor, it would primarily be only mail wage earners that came to the united states, most often to make enough money to help at home. Since the boarder was relatively easy to cross, they would frequently come and go, staying for perhaps a few months at a time.

Since border policies became stricter, people have been more likely to bring their families with them and to stay permanently, since they (the primary wage earner) cannot be guaranteed to get back into the united states to earn funds in the future.

That's not a theory, that is the facts.

 

[MovingTarget]

Well, it is a good point, but there is a fundamental difference in the aims of those crossing the boarder to work in the US somewhere close to the boarder and those who cross the boarder and end up in non-boarder states. They don't intend to return for the most part after a few months. I have no problem with workers (legally) coming across the boarder to work temporarily and then go back to his/her family in Mexico. This is how bordering nations intermingle. Tighter border security has hurt the former group, which are generally well-intentioned. Only a comprehensive system will fix teh problem. If you could get work permits to temporarily work in the US legally, these guys would do so. However, the others that intend to stay without regard to US law probably wouldn't care about such a system. Only a wall or real reform in Mexico would alleviate that problem.

 

[shortylickens]

Thats all well and good but I'd be happy if we could just start shipping busloads of them back. And when I say busloads I mean: when school gets out this summer we keep all the bus drivers working (paid of course) and get them out in droves, seeing as how they came across in droves and started breeding in droves.

/anger


I have long since accepted the fact they are here to stay. Neither candidate wanted to do anything about them. The republicans usually talk a lot about this issue, but in the past eight years they didnt get a damn thing done.
The democrats dont even pretend. They have pretty much implied they want them here because its easy votes when their kids turn 18.
I just got used to the idea that we have so many other problems nobody is going to take this seriously.