Could say 10 F22 Raptors take out china's entire air force?

[Schadenfroh]

Asuming that the pilots are trained to american standards, over a period of time, could they bring china's entire air force down? Is it that good of a plane? And what type of fighters does china mainly use? vietnam era migs?

 

[kalster]

no

 

[Wahsapa]

considering chinas airforce is run on bottle rockets... yes

 

[Goosemaster]

it is a long range fighter

 

[FFactory0x]

HAHAHAHAHA

 

[yankeesfan]

TBH, the dogfights you see on TV will never happen again.

 

[sonz70]

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
TBH, the dogfights you see on TV will never happen again.

Whys that?

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: sonz70

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
TBH, the dogfights you see on TV will never happen again.

Whys that?

because of long range missiles

plus didn't we just lose some exhibition fight last year?

 

[slick230]

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: sonz70

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
TBH, the dogfights you see on TV will never happen again.

Whys that?

because of long range missiles

plus didn't we just lose some exhibition fight last year?

But when those missles are gone, all you have left is guns guns guns.

This is the reason that Red Flag and Top Gun were created. During Vietnam F4 pilots were relying on their missles, and when they ran out they didn't have the basic dogfighting skills.

 

[bigj3347]

imo, that is just an ignorant question. . . raptors are great planes, but China, by sheer mass, will take out ten easily. . . and china's air force isn't bottle rockets. they have soviet/russian planes . . . which some might argue are better than US planes back in the day.

 

[IAteYourMother]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breath* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[OS]

heh, why doesn't someone invent an unmanned steath missile ship that can clear out a sky full of fighters.

 

[stnicralisk]

China is expanding their air force in preparation for taking Taiwan. They have bought some planes from Russia and they are making a new generation of their own fighter. Both are said to be superior to an F-15.

 

[NFS4]

10 F22 Raptors could wipe out Canada's military in about 15 minutes

 

[Azndude51]

Originally posted by: OS
heh, why doesn't someone invent an unmanned steath missile ship that can clear out a sky full of fighters.

Because it will go go crazy and turn on its master.

 

[jchu14]

Not even close.

I have no doubt that a F22 Raptor can shoot down enemy planes with its missles without being even detected. The simple fact is that an F22 can only carry up to 16 air-to-air missles. So with 10 Raptors, they can shoot down 160 enemy aircraft.

The chinese air force is in possession of 4,000 fighters, 400 ground-attack aircraft, and 120 bombers. They are all light years technologically inferior to the F22, but sooner or later the F22 will run out of missles. Using the guns takes away the main advtange of the Raptor, that is stealth and being able to attack without ever being seen.

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[Riceball]

Originally posted by: OS
heh, why doesn't someone invent an unmanned steath missile ship that can clear out a sky full of fighters.

The joint strike fighter is supposedly the last mannned fighter the military will ever deploy.

 

[Riceball]

Originally posted by: jchu14
Not even close.

I have no doubt that a F22 Raptor can shoot down enemy planes with its missles without being even detected. The simple fact is that an F22 can only carry up to 16 air-to-air missles. So with 10 Raptors, they can shoot down 160 enemy aircraft.

The chinese air force is in possession of 4,000 fighters, 400 ground-attack aircraft, and 120 bombers. They are all light years technologically inferior to the F22, but sooner or later the F22 will run out of missles. Using the guns takes away the main advtange of the Raptor, that is stealth and being able to attack without ever being seen.

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But the poster posted over a period of time, which I assume did not mean one sortie.

 

[NFS4]

All you need to know:


America's planes
Everybody else

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: slick230

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: sonz70

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
TBH, the dogfights you see on TV will never happen again.

Whys that?

because of long range missiles

plus didn't we just lose some exhibition fight last year?

But when those missles are gone, all you have left is guns guns guns.

This is the reason that Red Flag and Top Gun were created. During Vietnam F4 pilots were relying on their missles, and when they ran out they didn't have the basic dogfighting skills.

Actually F4s (at least the early ones) didn't even have any guns on them so dogfighting was useless anyway....they HAD to rely on missles. I'm not sure they ever put cannons on the F4.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: slick230

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: sonz70

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
TBH, the dogfights you see on TV will never happen again.

Whys that?

because of long range missiles

plus didn't we just lose some exhibition fight last year?

But when those missles are gone, all you have left is guns guns guns.

This is the reason that Red Flag and Top Gun were created. During Vietnam F4 pilots were relying on their missles, and when they ran out they didn't have the basic dogfighting skills.

Actually F4s (at least the early ones) didn't even have any guns on them so dogfighting was useless anyway....they HAD to rely on missles. I'm not sure they ever put cannons on the F4.

They did in the later models

The first F-4E was delivered to the Air Force in October 1967. The Air National Guard received its first F-4E in 1985, the Air Force Reserve in 1987. This model, with an additional fuselage fuel tank, leading-edge slats for increased maneuverability, and an improved engine, also has an internally mounted 20mm multibarrel gun with improved fire-control system.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-4.htm

 

[Heisenberg]

Questions like this are always silly. The USAF is superior to China's in just about every way, but asking if 10 planes could take out an entire air force is so unrealistic it's pretty laughable.

 

[Mo0o]

I was under the impression China had the largest air force in the world. Just by sheer numbers China will win.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Questions like this are always silly. The USAF is superior to China's in just about every way, but asking if 10 planes could take out an entire air force is pretty laughable.

Even Canada?

 

[slick230]

It's kind of like the whole scenario for tank crews in Germany during the Cold War. The major entry point into western Europe was through the Fulda Gap. We had lots of tanks there, good tanks too, but if the sh!t ever hit the fan ti was calculated that the average tank crew would only last 15 minutes against a full-on Soviet push into the Gap. We may have had better tanks, but they had just SO many more that they would have won on sheer numbers alone.

It's like Zap Brannigan said on Futerama, "You see Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them. Until they reached their limit and shutdown." We would be the Killbots, and the Soviets would just keep coming.

It's the same with the F22 and the Chinese airforce. They just have so many that 10 F22's couldn't take them ALL.