Could it be true? First pics of the new Mac Mini?

[postmortemIA]

Having cash or not, it doesn't change the picture. They haven't get caught in first wave - fine, but what do you think is coming rest of this year? It is irresponsible of any company (cough BIG 3) to count on cash-on-hand and operate at loss. That is why most companies -even profitable ones - are laying off because in future they won't need these workers.

Any company that produces stuff that is not necessity has been hit by this crisis. Some later than others.

Beside, their sales did already take some small hit on laptops, and larger on desktops.
http://www.crn.com/hardware/214500933

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Having cash or not, it doesn't change the picture. They haven't get caught in first wave - fine, but what do you think is coming rest of this year? It is irresponsible of any company (cough BIG 3) to count on cash-on-hand and operate at loss. That is why most companies -even profitable ones - are laying off because in future they won't need these workers.

Any company that produces stuff that is not necessity has been hit by this crisis. Some later than others.

Beside, their sales did already take some small hit on laptops, and larger on desktops.
http://www.crn.com/hardware/214500933

who said they were operating at a loss? they're making money still, just slowing down vastly. your comments about them needing to "stay afloat" make it sound like they're about to sink.

as for the mac line up, I don't see it changing anytime soon for cheaper macs, as much as I'd like to see it. There still isn't a nicer all-in-one solution, and their aluminum body laptops are solid (altho, I feel they are dropping the ball on overall quality some).

The mac mini almost feels like it'll take the same fate as the apple tv... a little side project in seeing "how it goes." I'd be curious how the dell studio hybrids are doing... we're contemplating them for work, but I dunno if they'll take a 5yr+ lifespan. That might push Apple if they are doing well enough. Though, still wishful thinking

 

[Eug]

The only shipping Mac in existence that doesn't support dual screens is the Mac mini. I've been saying for a long time that it'd really be nice to get a Mac mini that did support dual screens. This pic may very well be fake, but nonetheless it does illustrate one of the current Mac mini's deficiencies. Firewire 800 would also be a bonus, as external hard drives can easily surpass FW 400 (and USB 2) speeds these days.

What I really want though is a Mac netbook, as long as it is fast enough to support Keynote presentations.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Eug
The only shipping Mac in existence that doesn't support dual screens is the Mac mini. I've been saying for a long time that it'd really be nice to get a Mac mini that did support dual screens. This pic may very well be fake, but nonetheless it does illustrate one of the current Mac mini's deficiencies. Firewire 800 would also be a bonus, as external hard drives can easily surpass FW 400 (and USB 2) speeds these days.

What I really want though is a Mac netbook, as long as it is fast enough to support Keynote presentations.

If they add the 9400m, which is pretty much a given, then they'd be stupid not to add dual monitors. And enough people have complained about the lack of a Firewire port on the 13" that they'll probably throw that in. The question I have is, will they go with an Atom CPU? Probably not, but that'd certainly drive the cost waaaaaaaaay down...

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Eug
The only shipping Mac in existence that doesn't support dual screens is the Mac mini. I've been saying for a long time that it'd really be nice to get a Mac mini that did support dual screens. This pic may very well be fake, but nonetheless it does illustrate one of the current Mac mini's deficiencies. Firewire 800 would also be a bonus, as external hard drives can easily surpass FW 400 (and USB 2) speeds these days.

What I really want though is a Mac netbook, as long as it is fast enough to support Keynote presentations.

If they add the 9400m, which is pretty much a given, then they'd be stupid not to add dual monitors. And enough people have complained about the lack of a Firewire port on the 13" that they'll probably throw that in. The question I have is, will they go with an Atom CPU? Probably not, but that'd certainly drive the cost waaaaaaaaay down...

one would think they'd be stupid to rip FW out of the 13" and they did that too 😉

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Eug
The only shipping Mac in existence that doesn't support dual screens is the Mac mini. I've been saying for a long time that it'd really be nice to get a Mac mini that did support dual screens. This pic may very well be fake, but nonetheless it does illustrate one of the current Mac mini's deficiencies. Firewire 800 would also be a bonus, as external hard drives can easily surpass FW 400 (and USB 2) speeds these days.

What I really want though is a Mac netbook, as long as it is fast enough to support Keynote presentations.

If they add the 9400m, which is pretty much a given, then they'd be stupid not to add dual monitors. And enough people have complained about the lack of a Firewire port on the 13" that they'll probably throw that in. The question I have is, will they go with an Atom CPU? Probably not, but that'd certainly drive the cost waaaaaaaaay down...

one would think they'd be stupid to rip FW out of the 13" and they did that too 😉

It's the Apple 99% Rule (tm) - they'll give you 99% of what you want, because they know you'll never upgrade again if they give you 100% 😛

 

[Eug]

Well, I got Firewire and a faster CPU, and my MacBook was actually cheaper... cuz I got the white one. Actually I got a refurb 2.1 GHz white, so it was much, much cheaper.

 

[KeypoX]

anyone see the video of the new mac mini? http://www.macrumors.com/ rick rolled lol jk

 

[speg]

Originally posted by: Eug
What I really want though is a Mac netbook, as long as it is fast enough to support Keynote presentations.

Ugh, no. Why do you need a netbook? What do you want to do with a netbook (sounds like Keynote presentations) that you can't do with an iPhone?

My most frequent task on any computer involves, going through iGoogle, Facebook, gmail, Twitter, and MSN. I can do all that on my phone, bam, bam, bam and done. No netbook required.

And it wouldn't be a stretch to run a presentation off the phone either, so it can do that too.

 

[Eug]

The iPhone isn't even a consideration for that. Not only is it too slow, there is no 1024x768 VGA output support obviously.

Oh and it's quite easy for a netbook to support presentation software, even with an Atom CPU. Why do I want a netbook? Cuz I find my 13" MacBook too bulky.

P.S. The iPhone is the best surfing phone in existence... but it still doesn't do Flash and the screen is still annoying to look at compared to a netbook, and typing on it is a biatch, which means I still want a netbook.

 

[chcarnage]

Have a look at Macrumors' Buyer's Guide. The Mac Mini is dead in the water. Personally I believe it will be replaced with a new cube or eMac or similar sometime, but the current form factor is dead.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: speg

Originally posted by: Eug
What I really want though is a Mac netbook, as long as it is fast enough to support Keynote presentations.

Ugh, no. Why do you need a netbook? What do you want to do with a netbook (sounds like Keynote presentations) that you can't do with an iPhone?

My most frequent task on any computer involves, going through iGoogle, Facebook, gmail, Twitter, and MSN. I can do all that on my phone, bam, bam, bam and done. No netbook required.

And it wouldn't be a stretch to run a presentation off the phone either, so it can do that too.

meh, I find the ipod touch to comfortably do any of that stuff when I am around the house. And the lack of flash really kills it for me. I would actually be more fine with it if it was more like the nokida n810.. bigger screen w/ sliding keyboard.

of course, finding that point of size and usability for a phone... I don't think I can ever have an all in one I"d be happy with.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: chcarnage
Have a look at Macrumors' Buyer's Guide. The Mac Mini is dead in the water. Personally I believe it will be replaced with a new cube or eMac or similar sometime, but the current form factor is dead.

The problem is that the Mac Mini is simply too expensive for non-techie consumers. A lot of people think the Mini is a really neat computer, but not for $600, and certainly not for $800 with the DVD burner (which should be standard by now). Apple wants to sell at a premium price, so I don't know if we'll ever see that price drop...the economy will rebound eventually and I don't think they want to be stuck with low prices, so I doubt we'll see much of a price change.

What would be killer is a Cube 2.0 with a slimline DVD drive, 3 hard drive slots, a Core i7 CPU, and up to 24 gigs of RAM. You can do it with a Hackintosh already, but I want a pretty case 😀:

 

[Eug]

The Mac mini IS Cube 2.0... It's a better price now, but still not good enough. A mini should be available for under $500, like it was was years ago.

 

[PCTC2]

The mini-DVI makes sense for 90% of users but the mini-DisplayPort makes sense for their new 24" LED Displays using only a mini-DisplayPort. Finally something other than a laptop to use that screen (hopefully).

 

[Kaido]

http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...rport-extreme-and-tim/

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Kaido
http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...rport-extreme-and-tim/

If they release a new Mac Mini that can drive two monitors and has decent specs for $600, I'd be hard pressed to find a reason not to buy one the day it's released. It'd be the first Mac I've personally owned since I ditched my Performa 6400 for Windows in 1999.

 

[racolvin]

Gimme the power in a top-of-the-line iMac in a small case with NO MONITOR and I'd buy one today. I'd buy one yesterday if it was a quad core (Q6600 anyone?). If they can do it in a Mini I'll take that 🙂

 

[aphex]

I would LOVE to see an Apple TV refresh coming up soon as well.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: racolvin
Gimme the power in a top-of-the-line iMac in a small case with NO MONITOR and I'd buy one today. I'd buy one yesterday if it was a quad core (Q6600 anyone?). If they can do it in a Mini I'll take that 🙂

lol...the CPU Cooler on my Q6600 is bigger than the Mac Mini...

 

[KeypoX]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Having cash or not, it doesn't change the picture. They haven't get caught in first wave - fine, but what do you think is coming rest of this year? It is irresponsible of any company (cough BIG 3) to count on cash-on-hand and operate at loss. That is why most companies -even profitable ones - are laying off because in future they won't need these workers.

Any company that produces stuff that is not necessity has been hit by this crisis. Some later than others.

Beside, their sales did already take some small hit on laptops, and larger on desktops.
http://www.crn.com/hardware/214500933

Sep 08 Sep 07 Sep 06
Net Operating Cash Flow 9,596.0 5,470.0 2,220.0

Apples operating cash flow... dunno where you get they are operating at a loss.

Obviously its good they are doing what they are doing and not listening to you.

Here is revenue just incase your curious about that too

2008 2007 2006
Revenue ($ mil.) 32,479.0 24,006.0 19,315.0

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: KeypoX

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Having cash or not, it doesn't change the picture. They haven't get caught in first wave - fine, but what do you think is coming rest of this year? It is irresponsible of any company (cough BIG 3) to count on cash-on-hand and operate at loss. That is why most companies -even profitable ones - are laying off because in future they won't need these workers.

Any company that produces stuff that is not necessity has been hit by this crisis. Some later than others.

Beside, their sales did already take some small hit on laptops, and larger on desktops.
http://www.crn.com/hardware/214500933

Sep 08 Sep 07 Sep 06
Net Operating Cash Flow 9,596.0 5,470.0 2,220.0

Apples operating cash flow... dunno where you get they are operating at a loss.

Obviously its good they are doing what they are doing and not listening to you.

Here is revenue just incase your curious about that too

2008 2007 2006
Revenue ($ mil.) 32,479.0 24,006.0 19,315.0

time will tell. you cannot measure future performance based on past performance.

anyway, great news:

Apple insider claims new mac mini comes out TOMORROW:
Link @ Apple Insider

 

[KeypoX]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: KeypoX

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Having cash or not, it doesn't change the picture. They haven't get caught in first wave - fine, but what do you think is coming rest of this year? It is irresponsible of any company (cough BIG 3) to count on cash-on-hand and operate at loss. That is why most companies -even profitable ones - are laying off because in future they won't need these workers.

Any company that produces stuff that is not necessity has been hit by this crisis. Some later than others.

Beside, their sales did already take some small hit on laptops, and larger on desktops.
http://www.crn.com/hardware/214500933

Sep 08 Sep 07 Sep 06
Net Operating Cash Flow 9,596.0 5,470.0 2,220.0

Apples operating cash flow... dunno where you get they are operating at a loss.

Obviously its good they are doing what they are doing and not listening to you.

Here is revenue just incase your curious about that too

2008 2007 2006
Revenue ($ mil.) 32,479.0 24,006.0 19,315.0

time will tell. you cannot measure future performance based on past performance.

anyway, great news:

Apple insider claims new mac mini comes out TOMORROW:
Link @ Apple Insider

yep thats what im reading. Im hoping for 10.5.7 tomorrow.

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/...rs-available-tomorrow/

I dont see the differences on the new imacs though. They already have core 2 duos? Why only move to ddr3? Maybe new video cards? Thats pretty rough though gotta but a whole new imac to upgrade video card.

 

[manly]

I'm still thinking next week. 😉

DDR3 RAM would certainly mean an improved chipset/platform and GPUs (see unibody MacBook Pro series).

Those rumored configs are somewhat improbable: one 20" iMac and multiple 24" iMacs; and a base Mac mini that still has just 1GB RAM! IMO that would make minor sense only if the Mac mini had a $100 price drop.

As an aside, Apple Inc. has massive deferred revenue from iPhone 3G handset sales, which are accounted as subscription revenue over 8 quarters. If they can keep the iPhone sales run rate going, their cash hoard will continue to expand and they'll have a pretty smooth earnings chart for quarters to come, even with the global recession. Mac sales are no doubt important to their business but the stock price is much more dependent on growth in the iPhone business.