Costco return policy change but the hot deal is Fuji 50 pack cdr for 2.99 after $10 mail-in-rebate at BESTBUY

kimagurealex

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Went to Costco in Tustin California earlier today, and saw a magnet sticker near the electronic department about the desktop and laptop computer return policy change, it says all desktop or laptop purchase will now have a 6 month satisfaction guarantee instead of what used to be an indefinite period of time. The new policy will go in effect today November 4th, 2002. Beware if you are thinking about returning your computer purchase in longer than 6 months, the policy does not affect purchase made before today. Personally I think six months is still a very long "try out" period.

Edit: I just remembered this is a hot deal forum, so I added what I found from the ads in the newspaper to make sure this doesn't get locked.
 

Kwad Guy

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Anyone who looks at that sign and actually gets worried is a scumbag anyway.
The fact that Costco has allowed people to return their computers long after they
had depreciated to zip means that most of us have been paying for the antics of
a small group of cheats...Glad to see they are changing the policy.

Kwad
 

kimagurealex

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Kwad Guy, this is very rude of you calling people scumbag. I have bought two compaq latop computers 2800T from Costco this year and they all have harddrive failure after some extensive usage. Don't you know it takes compaq more than 20 days to fix and ship it back to customers plus more than 6 hour phone call and wait time just to make sure they know the problem because they usually don't get it right at the first time in my opinion. For this kind of quality service from compaq, Costco is my last line of consumer warrenty. I have every reason to worry about this policy change since I prefer to pay more money at Costco to get this kind of return service if anything goes wrong with my laptop computers. I guess you are just having so much time to deal with this kind of issue one by one. For me, Money is Time, and losing time means losing Money. Now, do you still think "Anyone who looks at that sign and actually gets worried is a scumbag anyway?" please present me your strong case to back up your "ANYONE" word choice. Because I know I am not one of them and that is not "ANYONE" anymore.

ALEX
 

k000

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Come on !

6 months is the best policy anywhere !

Is someone has issues with the service/warranty of a particular brand, I would say you should never buy their products. That's why I haven't bought Tompaq after my first purchase with them.
 

TheDon

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Originally posted by: Kwad Guy
Anyone who looks at that sign and actually gets worried is a scumbag anyway.
The fact that Costco has allowed people to return their computers long after they
had depreciated to zip means that most of us have been paying for the antics of
a small group of cheats...Glad to see they are changing the policy.

Kwad

I agree completly. It cost every honest member money everytime someone gets tired of their "old" technology and manages to show up with a "broken" computer.
 

GreatBambino

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How does it cost the member's money? i mean costco's prices go down if anything. I haven't ever seen costco's prices alot higher than any other store.. they are mostly lower if anything. Plus if you a executive member you basically get any money back you spent on membership for that year anyways. Least that's what happend with my parents.
 

nikko

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Six months is still a pretty great deal. Heck, they even let you return software after you've opened it, which seems insane considering CD burners cost next to nothing these days.
 

popeye44

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I work with people who have used the computer replacement policy and frankly in many cases it's far much easier to haul your parts to costco than to have someone like me fix it for 35+ an hour or to use the warranty that came with the computer. I can't say it's right but I would use that policy if my cdr suddenly quit working and I had no real idea how to work on my own. I know this policy was abused.. thats why they are changing it.. however it will hurt those who really don't have a clue about computers and just want something that works.
 

Yo2

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Originally posted by: Kwad Guy
Anyone who looks at that sign and actually gets worried is a scumbag anyway.
The fact that Costco has allowed people to return their computers long after they
had depreciated to zip means that most of us have been paying for the antics of
a small group of cheats...Glad to see they are changing the policy.

Kwad

Amen to that

Also - Some people here are trying to mix return policy with warranty. I guess it worked in the past, but ultimately the COSTCO members will have to pay more to cover these policies. So I agree that 6 months is ok.

Yo

 

gwlam12

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Originally posted by: kimagurealex
Kwad Guy, this is very rude of you calling people scumbag. I have bought two compaq latop computers 2800T from Costco this year and they all have harddrive failure after some extensive usage. Don't you know it takes compaq more than 20 days to fix and ship it back to customers plus more than 6 hour phone call and wait time just to make sure they know the problem because they usually don't get it right at the first time in my opinion. For this kind of quality service from compaq, Costco is my last line of consumer warrenty. I have every reason to worry about this policy change since I prefer to pay more money at Costco to get this kind of return service if anything goes wrong with my laptop computers. I guess you are just having so much time to deal with this kind of issue one by one. For me, Money is Time, and losing time means losing Money. Now, do you still think "Anyone who looks at that sign and actually gets worried is a scumbag anyway?" please present me your strong case to back up your "ANYONE" word choice. Because I know I am not one of them and that is not "ANYONE" anymore.

ALEX

well im sure he means the people who abuse the policy, not people like you.
 

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Edit: I just remembered this is a hot deal forum, so I added what I found from the ads in the newspaper to make sure this doesn't get locked.

Then remove the title that isn't related to the deal
 

jrichrds

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Originally posted by: Kwad Guy
Anyone who looks at that sign and actually gets worried is a scumbag anyway.
The fact that Costco has allowed people to return their computers long after they
had depreciated to zip means that most of us have been paying for the antics of
a small group of cheats...Glad to see they are changing the policy.

Kwad

As a Costco member, I fully agree with their changing the policy to something less lenient. It's absurd seeing people return tech items 2 years later, even if it did break.
Most other places only have a 14-day return period for laptops and the such. 6 months is still overly generous.

I don't know, however, who's actually footing the bill when someone returns a computer 2 years later. Doesn't Costco enter into an agreement with their suppliers that they must allow these sort of returns? It might be Compaq, etc. being affected by the returns, not Costco.

 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Kwad Guy
Anyone who looks at that sign and actually gets worried is a scumbag anyway.
The fact that Costco has allowed people to return their computers long after they
had depreciated to zip means that most of us have been paying for the antics of
a small group of cheats...Glad to see they are changing the policy.

Kwad
Exactly! ;) However, I'm happy with any store that has a return policy longer than 14 days - which seems like about the 'norm' for computer-related purchases. I'm sure the change is just an interim change. Eventually, the period will shorten even more. There's no need for Costco to cater to the users (and abusers) of their policies.
 

pcolson

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Has anyone here bought the Fuji CDRs this week? I looked today, and they do not have the screw on cap. They are still made in Japan. Does anyone know if they are still TYs?

Thanks, Paul
 

Dznuts007

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As a Costco member, I fully agree with their changing the policy to something less lenient. It's absurd seeing people return tech items 2 years later, even if it did break.
Most other places only have a 14-day return period for laptops and the such. 6 months is still overly generous.

I don't know, however, who's actually footing the bill when someone returns a computer 2 years later. Doesn't Costco enter into an agreement with their suppliers that they must allow these sort of returns? It might be Compaq, etc. being affected by the returns, not Costco.[/quote]


I think it's ok that they're changing their policy to 6 months. 6 months is pretty much 6 times longer than any other store's policy, so it's still pretty darn good. But if you think about it, why should you really care (other than the possible increase in membership dues which hasn't happened)? Costco is the one trying to attract people by this policy to buy from them. They're profitting from this policy by getting more people to buy from them rather than someone else. Yeah, they'll lose some money when people abuse it, but they're probably profitting more. It's kind of ridiculous when people sit there and feel sorry for these corporations that make a huge amount of money. Being a consumer (like most of us) means being selfish. We're here to purchase for our wants and needs regardless of who suffers...think about it. Other than that, Costco rules!!!
 

dgmillar

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The previous poster is correct. Suppliers usually bear the brunt of the cost of consumers' returns to merchandising firms (such as Costco, Walmart, etc.). Returns and charge-backs to suppliers normally happens at two different points. There is a so-called "receiving profit center" which charges back suppliers when goods are received (sometimes as much as 10% of inventory value upon delivery on average -- the causes for these charge-backs vary in validity) and also returns or excess inventory. Returned merchadise could be returned by merchandisers as unsold merchandise or through liquidation to salvage (which is probably the likely case for Costco's out of date computer inventory).

I'm surprised that AnAndTest readers responded so vivaciously in support of this change in policy by Costco. In the spirit of name calling, which was begun very early on in this threat by a poster calling people categorically "stupid" and a "scumbag" -- I believe you are probably "conflicted" and "mis-informed." Especially interesting was the poster claiming that utilizing Costco's return policy to return items "costs every member money" (i.e. raises prices). Actually, microeconomics tells us that this is simply not true. Returning merchandise certainly reduces profits for firms (either the merchandising firm or the manufacturing firm, depending on legal obligation for inventory and accounting procedures), but prices are established by consumers' willingness to pay, not a firms' desired profit margin. (If you reject that, think about it this way ... Does your willingness to buy a DVD player from Walmart stem from the fact that it is offered to you for $58.87, in another post on this board, or from the fact that Walmart's profit margin on the item is 1% or 10% or -10%?)

So, why are posters on this board upset at the idea that consumers would return computers 6.5 months after purchasing them from Costco? Let me first say that I don't think it is Costco's *responsibility* to continue this policy, but there are valid marketing reasons why Costco might want to maintain the policy as it was or as it is now. Assuming that the former anytime return policy was well planned (not a loophole), Costco must have been operating under that hope that it's anytime return policy -- on any item -- helped it maximize profits. That is, the revenue that Costco can generate from selling items to customers since they never have to worry about not being able to return them is greater than the Costco associated with accepting back the returns. Costco's change in policy for computers likely resulted from an analysis of member returns of computers which Costco would like to curtail.

But, why would anyone on this message board be excited about getting less (in this case, "in store warranty") for their purchases? This message board clearly doesn't exist to help firms maximize profits ... it exists to help consumers maximize consumer surplus -- i.e. play less for something that you'd otherwise be willing to pay or get more for your money.
 

Pothead

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Dude, you don't need to write a dissertation of any sort...maybe I should write one everytime I post to show my Ivy league edjumakation...to simply put it...someone that uses something say for x amount of months and just feels like returning it is an @$$. At least this shortened return policy will curb those doing this.
 

dgmillar

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With brevity, another "pothead" missed the point...

The point is that Costco never should have offered an indefinite return policy; however, since it was offered, rational consumers should feel no shame in exercising it -- much the same as customers on this message board show no shame in using coupons, taking advantage of pricing mistakes, etc.

Costco should have never offered open ended returns though because it seems, via overwhelming support of even this price-conscious group, that an overwhelming number of their members did not find this to be a value-adding service. Therefore, the cost of allowing such returns was apparently expendable.
 

dgmillar

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Originally posted by: Dznuts007
As a Costco member, I fully agree with their changing the policy to something less lenient. It's absurd seeing people return tech items 2 years later, even if it did break.
Most other places only have a 14-day return period for laptops and the such. 6 months is still overly generous.

I don't know, however, who's actually footing the bill when someone returns a computer 2 years later. Doesn't Costco enter into an agreement with their suppliers that they must allow these sort of returns? It might be Compaq, etc. being affected by the returns, not Costco.


I think it's ok that they're changing their policy to 6 months. 6 months is pretty much 6 times longer than any other store's policy, so it's still pretty darn good. But if you think about it, why should you really care (other than the possible increase in membership dues which hasn't happened)? Costco is the one trying to attract people by this policy to buy from them. They're profitting from this policy by getting more people to buy from them rather than someone else. Yeah, they'll lose some money when people abuse it, but they're probably profitting more. It's kind of ridiculous when people sit there and feel sorry for these corporations that make a huge amount of money. Being a consumer (like most of us) means being selfish. We're here to purchase for our wants and needs regardless of who suffers...think about it. Other than that, Costco rules!!![/quote]

You're absolutely right. And yes, Costco does rule.
 

Bleep

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An interesting thread, Cosco is not the only one to have a forever return policy like some of you would like to beleive.

Cabellas a company known around the world has a unlimited time policy, if you have a pair of hunting boots and have wore them for 5 years and they are completly worn out send them back and they will replace them with NEW ones not refurbs like computer companies do.
I was talking to the owner a while back about this and I said the policy was not a good one for the Co. He told me that it was one of the smartest thing that he heve did. The amount of people that take advantage of the policy is very small and that in his opinion it is much cheaper to keep a customer than to find a new one.

Bleep
 

sat4fun

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Those that think that the cost incured due to such a lenient policy were limited to Costco members are wrong. The costs of the returns were absorbed by the manufacture, not Costco. Manufactures of such items fight to sell at Costco. The costs are spread over all retailers.
 

masterxfob

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dgmillar: wow, i'm so impressed! you're so edumacated, can i be like you? :Q

hope you feel like a better person for giving the whole AT community a lecture, now get off your high horse
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