Cost of War Calculator
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Because the oil in the Middle East is crucial to the world's economies.
There's BIG money in oil.
The U.S., in 2003, used about 5.7million barrels of crude oil per day. Multiply that by the current $40/barrel price and you're looking at $228 million per day or almost $7billion/mo.
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They've gone up thanks to Bush's romp in the sand. The threat of terrorist attack on oil infrastructure has helped to raise the price of crude.
They've gone up thanks to Bush's romp in the sand. The threat of terrorist attack on oil infrastructure has helped to raise the price of crude.
Instead of focusing on the Middle East for oil, we should look to Russia. They have huge amounts of oil that can be sold and they need a lot more money than the House of Saud.
How about focusing on alternative fuels?
Think of how much we could have done with $150billion spent on alternative fuel research!
George Bush had done more dammage to our country than any man in history. He's just the person we deserve.
Xenon, If you'll remember, the administration thought this was going to be a short war with the Iraqis welcoming us with flowers. That would have made the cost equation work out. But, empires fall when they make decisions to protect their resources that cost more than the resources are worth. Rome overextended itself to try and protect the wheat trade. There are a lot of other reasons for the fall of Rome, so don't base everything on overextension.
its disturbing that we spend that much. I don't think we should even be there, but since we're there we gotta do it right, or end up screwing ourselves over more in the future somehow.
think of how much we could devastate our own economy doing alternative fuel research. car companies, gasoline companies, refineries, parts manufacturers, and a lot of other companies would be affected by a switch to alternative fuels.
Actually I've heard that many oil/gas companies want to switch to alternative fuels according to a documentary I watched a month or so ago. They see more potential profit in it and have encouraged government research. Seeing as how they can all have equal access to the alternative forms of energy. Many major car manufacturers like Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Ford, and others.
I'm sure liveries didn't exactly cheer the automobile. In fact, I guess it probably devastated the industry.
you told him to think when you weren't doing it yourself. Obviously if a new and near flawless fuel suddenly sprung up, everyone would move to accept it. Otherwise the somewhat better alternatives phase themselves in slowly and we don't get the effects you metinon. Hybrid cars are a great example of this.
You move more and more to becoming the ATPN village idiot with each post of yours.
I suppose Henry Ford devastated our economy by mass-producing the automobile (put a lot of buggy and whip manufacturers out of business.)
I suppose the invention of robotic machinery to replace assembly-line workers has devastated our economy, too.
I suppose the invention of the telephone devastated the economy by putting telegraph companies out of business.
We have a capitalistic economy. Adapt or perish.
Factor in the fact that Iraq will produce oil autonomously ie - the oil is not under American ownership, the oil produced still has to be purchased. Lookup OPEC. What Iraqi production of oil will accomplish is a general decrease in prices, not only that, but OPEC can lower prices now by increasing production without Iraq. Nevertheless, America does not just magically manufacture 5.7 million barrels of oil and reap the benefits of the cost of that oil. Rather, the increase in supply of oil will lower average gas prices to pre-war levels, therefore the gain you get from Iraq producing oil on the open market would be marginal if at all, and if you factor in the cost of the war, then America will just be throwing money away. If someone has the time to look this up, it'd be interesting to see how much oil America uses to supply the troops in Iraq (Not even a meriad of all the other costs)... The bottom line is, oil cannot be the reason, at least the sole reason for going to war, because it simply does not make sense economically. It's like saying I'll give you $10 if you give me $5.
As far as saying that the administration thought it would be a "short" war I have several responses. Although I do not have hard numbers to support this, I can guarentee that the cost of a "short" war is expensive enough to make it not worth it - consider the costs and the resourses. Secondly, I highly doubt that the Administration is unaware of how an country that is taken down responds. Recall Germany after WWII, it required 3 years of occupation before uprisings could be controlled by the newly esablished government.
Hi,
Outside of the current topic, this is still an over generalisation IMHO. I work in the government funded research sector and it does produce worthwhile results. Plus, you can pay government researchers much less than their industry equivalents - so in some circumstances it can work out cheaper.
Cheers,
Andy
Outside of the current topic, this is still an over generalisation IMHO. I work in the government funded research sector and it does produce worthwhile results. Plus, you can pay government researchers much less than their industry equivalents - so in some circumstances it can work out cheaper.
Cheers,
Andy
You're forgetting about NASA or groups funded by government money like university research and so on.
I would love it if the government spent more on resesarch. In fact, they need to spend more money on research.
It was deficit spending. How could it go back into the pockets of the taxpayers when it was never there from the start?!
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