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Cost of emergency-room cholesterol test? Could be $10, might be $10,000

shira

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This story - like similar stories before it - just reinforces the message that laws are needed that require hospitals to publish their rate schedules for services. These rate schedule need to be easy to access and easy to understand.

I'm sure there's a totally reasonable explanation.

Imagine walking into a hospital and being charged more than $10,000 for a blood test to check your cholesterol level. And going to another hospital in the same state and being charged $10 for the exact same blood test. That’s what a team led by a University of California San Francisco researcher found when it looked at the prices California hospitals charge for 10 common blood tests.

Researchers studied charges for a variety of tests at 160 to 180 California hospitals in 2011 and found a huge variation in prices. The median charge for a basic metabolic panel, which measures sodium, potassium and glucose levels, among other indicators, was $214. But hospitals charged from $35 to $7,303, depending on the facility. None of the hospitals were identified.

The biggest range involved charges for a lipid panel, a test that measures cholesterol and triglycerides, a type of fat (lipid), in the blood. The median charge was $220, but costs ranged from a minimum of $10 to a maximum of $10,169. Yes, more than $10,000 for a blood test that doctors typically order for older adults, to check their cholesterol levels.

The smallest range in charges was for a blood test that checks for a protein that signals for muscle inflammation. It cost $10 to $628.

The study was published Friday in the British Medical Journal Open.

Senior researcher Renee Hsia, associate professor of emergency medicine at UCSF and director of health policy studies at the Department of Emergency Medicine, studies disparities in health costs. But even Hsia, who is also an emergency physician at San Francisco General Hospital, was taken aback at the differences.

“I was very surprised,” she said.

I think "outraged" would have been a more appropriate emotional response.

Unlike other medical services or procedures that might vary by patient or doctor, these blood tests are common, simple and standard procedures. A technician draws blood from a patient, then walks the blood to a lab, where the blood sample is put into a machine that performs the analysis, she said. "In general, for most of these tests, nobody is doing hand assays or looking into a microscope," Hsia said.

Most consumers with health insurance won't pay those prices; most often, their health plans have negotiated a lower price with the hospital or provider. But patients without insurance face the full brunt of the charges, especially if they don’t qualify for a hospital’s charity care discounts, Hsia said.

In general, county hospitals and teaching hospitals had lower prices than non-teaching hospitals, not-for-profit and for-profit hospitals, she said.

“But outside of that, one of the most concerning findings is the small degree to which any factors could explain the differences…This shows that the way we price health care is so irrational,” Hsia said.

The researchers looked at data from California because the state's hospitals are required by law to submit their average charges for 25 of their most common outpatient procedures to state health planning officials. But the results, Hsia said, would be very similar across the rest of the country. The researchers weren’t able to do a national analysis because the data are so difficult to find, and many states and hospitals don’t make their charges publicly accessible.

The study's main conclusion is that there is no clear explanation for the price differences, Hsia said. A hospital’s case mix, labor costs and number of beds did not affect charges for these common procedures. Although teaching hospitals and county-run hospitals were generally lower in price, there were no other factors that could explain the differences. The majority of hospitals were not-for-profit, urban, non-teaching hospitals. On average, their patient mix included about 25 percent Medicaid and 41 percent Medicare patients.

One factor that researchers weren’t able to measure was a hospital’s investment in higher quality facilities or supplementary services. “The costs of these differences, while of value to patients, are not easy to measure” and may not be reflected in variables, such as a wage index, the study found. “However, they likely do trickle down into charges for all basic services, including blood tests.”

The bottom line, according to the study, is that hospitals recoup losses in other areas from third party payers to cover overall costs. “This often results in some services subsidizing others, with their charge increases generally unrelated to their value,” the study concluded.
 
The bill probably looked like this: emergency room visit $50,000,
Ambulance $20,000,
Lab test $10,000,
Discount for insurance 90%. Cost to insurance 6500
Cost to patient $1000 deductible +$500
 
The worst part of our healthcare system is the cost of a failed suicide attempt. It goes from depressed enough to kill yourself to that + being bankrupt.
 
The problem with that is that people don't need the Coke you're selling (unless they happen to be buying it with a Links card, then it's a necessity), but they probably really do need that blood test.
 
The problem with that is that people don't need the Coke you're selling (unless they happen to be buying it with a Links card, then it's a necessity), but they probably really do need that blood test.

Do they need it so bad they're prepared to pay 10 grand for it?
 
Am I missing something for why an emergency room would be doing a cholesterol test?

High cholesterol while not good for long term health probably isn't exactly an emergency.
 
Do they need it so bad they're prepared to pay 10 grand for it?

Depends. In shape 30 year old routine yearly office visit? Probably not. 60 year old with headaches, fatigue, swollen legs, etc. that hasn't had an office visit in 10 years? Probably. What if it's ER? Can't trust normal people in a medical emergency situation to be making money decisions spur of moment. It's why we needed single payer but Politicians can't be trusted to actually do what's right, only what's good enough to get the re-elected. Rinse, repeat...
 
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Why shouldn't the government tell companies they have to let customers know what a service costs before they provide it? Is any other industry like that?

does it matter?

if you have a sudden heart atack, will you calmy ask several hospitals how much they cost?
 
why would you go to ER to check your Cholesterol or even a Hospital??

Makes no sense.....there are clinics throughout the United states that do lab work.

Get a referral from your GP and go.......

It serves you right if a blood test cost you $10,000 in the emergency room if it`s just for cholesterol....
 
Time for the government to clean this outrage up. Health care is a utility, and rates and charges should be closely regulated to prevent just these sorts of abuses. Going to the hospital should not be an equivalent of writing a blank check.
 
"Most consumers with health insurance won't pay those prices; most often, their health plans have negotiated a lower price with the hospital or provider. But patients without insurance face the full brunt of the charges, especially if they don’t qualify for a hospital’s charity care discounts, Hsia said."


good thing everyone is mandated to have insurance
 
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